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Carry in a courtroom

Postby skeathley » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:34 pm

It has always been my understanding that carry was always disallowed in a courtroom or the premises of a court. I had an LTC student this week who works for the county (Roads and Bridges), and he said that he had been told at work that, after getting a license, he could carry in the courthouse or court premises if court was not in session.

Is that a quirk in the law, or is he misunderstanding what he was told?

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Re: Carry in a courtroom

Postby Mike S » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:50 pm

TPC 46.03 generally makes courtrooms statutorily off limits, UNLESS you have written permission, or unless there's a written regulation that allows it.

" (3) on the premises of any government court or offices utilized by the court, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the court; "

If I recall correctly, there's a Texas Attorney General opinion that only the actual courtroom and offices essential for the operation of the court may be posted; the entire building (if it also houses other than court-related offices/agencies) may not be posted.


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Re: Carry in a courtroom

Postby skeathley » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:53 am

That was my understanding as well. Collin County still has a lot of country personality, and is sometimes informal on some things. I wonder if this is just an "understanding" among county employees?

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Re: Carry in a courtroom

Postby JustSomeOldGuy » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:25 am

Buddhist; "If a tree falls in the forest, and there is no one to hear it, does it make a sound?"

Shootist; "If court is not in session, is it still a courtroom, or just a room?"

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Re: Carry in a courtroom

Postby SRO1911 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:54 pm

As laid back as my country county is, I still have it in writing- signed by the judge, with a copy in my employee file.
Not something I want to second guess or play the aww shucks card on.

If it's not in writing it did not happen, if it is in writing it might have happened but you better have duplicates with witnesses just in case.
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Re: Carry in a courtroom

Postby Flightmare » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:47 pm

SRO1911 wrote:As laid back as my country county is, I still have it in writing- signed by the judge, with a copy in my employee file.
Not something I want to second guess or play the aww shucks card on.

If it's not in writing it did not happen, if it is in writing it might have happened but you better have duplicates with witnesses just in case.


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Re: Carry in a courtroom

Postby twomillenium » Thu Dec 21, 2017 7:49 pm

JustSomeOldGuy wrote:Buddhist; "If a tree falls in the forest, and there is no one to hear it, does it make a sound?"

Shootist; "If court is not in session, is it still a courtroom, or just a room?"

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Re: Carry in a courtroom

Postby NNT » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:56 am

I had this issue when attending an event in the courtroom that was not court. Our county considers the courtroom always off limits and is posted at the door to the room, not the bldg. The LEO on duty when I went in allowed me to stand in the small entry room(courtroom has double doors) and watch what was going on without actually passing the doors into the room. Very accomodating.


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