History of the Mozambique Drill

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Re: History of the Mozambique Drill

Postby Flightmare » Fri May 19, 2017 7:47 pm

Mxrdad wrote:Charles, when is your next scheduled seminar? I want to attend and hopefully bring the son and DIL. Thanks


There was discussion in another thread about it. It's safe to say that it'll be AFTER the legislative session (and any potential special session/sessions)
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Re: History of the Mozambique Drill

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Fri May 19, 2017 8:17 pm

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/04/massa ... s-fiction/

Pay particular attention to the multiple hits with minimal immediate effect. Goal: Bring the fight to an end before your attacker kills you.

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Re: History of the Mozambique Drill

Postby OlBill » Fri May 19, 2017 8:19 pm

Head shots are much easier said than done.


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Re: History of the Mozambique Drill

Postby OlBill » Fri May 19, 2017 8:20 pm

Especially with a pistol.

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Re: History of the Mozambique Drill

Postby The Annoyed Man » Sat May 20, 2017 9:20 am

Charles L. Cotton wrote:I'm not going into a detailed discussion of this issue in an open forum. If you want more detail, then come to one of my seminars. Some people are reading far more into my statement that is remotely warranted. I am not suggesting that one turn a self-defense shooting into an execution. What I am suggesting is that one should not plan a delay in their response to a deadly assault that far too often has resulted in the death of the intended victim.

Charles, I sent you a PM. I apologize for failing to fully consider the implications before asking my question on the open forum.
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Re: History of the Mozambique Drill

Postby srothstein » Sun May 21, 2017 5:12 pm

OlBill wrote:Head shots are much easier said than done.


I guess I must have had some unusual training. I have been taught that the correct failure drill is actually four shots for this very reason. The first two to the center of the chest, with the third round to the head if possible. But that you should immediately transition downward and ut a fourth round into the pelvis area, and a little tot he side so it hips one of the hips off-center if possible. I forget where I was taught this, and I am guessing it was SAPD, but I could be wrong. IIRC, the instructors noted how hard a target to hit the head shot is (especially if the target is moving), and they pointed out the hips can be much more effective in actually stopping a threat because of the way they can drop a person to the ground (moving his base out from under him causing to to be off balance and fall). This seems to make sense to me. It also helps disprove the allegation that you were shooting to kill, but emphasizes the shooting to stop the threat.
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Re: History of the Mozambique Drill

Postby dragun » Mon May 22, 2017 2:45 pm

I just completed a 2 day pistol course from Wayne Dobbs & Darryl Bolke who both are long term veterans of the LE and each have over 20 years of training both civilians and LE in tactics. The Failure drill was emphasized strongly. As Charles said, it was two shots to center mass with a very slight pause, not even a quarter of a second, in that short time frame you are to asses the target and eliminate if still there and if the target had not dropped immediately, a final shot to the head.

Part of Darryl Bolke's job over his course of training LE in tactics, he investigated over 75 shootings officer involved shootings. I believe he said that out of the 75 shootings, 34 utilized the failure drill. (They were trained heavily to do this) Success in stopping the threat, and success in that nobody was charged with using excessive force. They all were ruled a good shoot. This applies to us in the civilian world as you often hear of both LE and individuals tend to have problems when you dump 6,7 or however many more rounds into someone. They teach the failure drill as precision and efficient use of force.


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