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Pig gun oil used in weapons to shoot Osama, denying him a place in heaven.

I long suspected that the whale oil I used to buy from Brownell's was, in effect, hog lard. Now I'm convinced....BTW is whale a forbidden meal component in Leviticus..there are no scales and it is a mammal (another thread topic, sorry)

fulano wrote:I long suspected that the whale oil I used to buy from Brownell's was, in effect, hog lard. Now I'm convinced....BTW is whale a forbidden meal component in Leviticus..there are no scales and it is a mammal (another thread topic, sorry)

Good question..... Dolphin skin was used in the building of the Tabernacle.

fulano wrote:I long suspected that the whale oil I used to buy from Brownell's was, in effect, hog lard. Now I'm convinced....BTW is whale a forbidden meal component in Leviticus..there are no scales and it is a mammal :headscratch (another thread topic, sorry)

According to the dietary laws found in Leviticus (and Deuteronomy) the Whale would be a forbidden food source for two reasons:

1. A whale is NOT a fish....but IF it were...the requirement would be that it have "Fins and Scales" (to be considered clean). A whale does not have scales...but a rubbery like skin.

2. A whale is a mammal (as you noted). There is no prohibition against mammals in the bible, however the restriction is that they have "a cloven hoof AND chew the cud". Obviously, a whale does not qualify on either account.


^^^^^^^^^ I hope the above does not violate the rule on no discussion of religion, I am simply providing Biblical evidence for the discussion at hand and NOT taking a religious position.

philip964 wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... onnel.html

Pig gun oil used in weapons to shoot Osama, denying him a place in heaven.

Your conclusion is not supported by the article you link to. The article also says "In Islam consumption of pork is forbidden, but the Quran also states that if one is forced to consume the meat then they are guiltless and therefore not disqualified from paradise." Unless Osama willingly killed himself then it appears that this event would not disqualify him from entry. Now . . . all the other things he did in his life surely have him roasting in a warm spot.

I'm with SlickTX. Also, despite all the bravado about wrapping the bodies of terrorists in pigskin, etc., etc., I don't think there is much to be gained by such "in your face" provocations which are insulting to anybody's religion.

OBL committed enough heinous acts in life without repentance that a just God would not embrace him in death. OBL lived in squalor, forced his family to live in squalor, deceived disaffected people into blowing themselves up, and yet he maintained an elaborate and florid pornography collection—all in the name of Allah.

He is dead. Our people killed him. That should be enough.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I'm with SlickTX. Also, despite all the bravado about wrapping the bodies of terrorists in pigskin, etc., etc., I don't think there is much to be gained by such "in your face" provocations which are insulting to anybody's religion.

OBL committed enough heinous acts in life without repentance that a just God would not embrace him in death. OBL lived in squalor, forced his family to live in squalor, deceived disaffected people into blowing themselves up, and yet he maintained an elaborate and florid pornography collection—all in the name of Allah.

He is dead. Our people killed him. That should be enough.

Don't know that it's neccesarily about bravado per se... if their goal is paradise, removing their goal may have a purpose. Thus Russians buried the Chechens who took over the school in pig skin. As to not being the Quran...correct, however they put traditions (haddith) on par with their scripture. Using the psychology of the enemy has always been a tactic in warfare. US did the same in fighting Native Americans, doing things to keep them from their "happy hunting grounds." At Gitmo, one tactic the US used was to have a woman question them and touch them... then saying it was "her time" and not allow him to bathe until he talked. This is a different war than we are used to, because it is about a philosophy rather than over land, and one has to get in their mindset to deal with it. I lecture across the country on Islam regularly... thus another reason to carry as I preach.

I have no doubt that you are correct about the application of psyops techniques in the WOT, but the subject of this article is not part of any official psyops effort. He's promoting his gun oil by claiming it was used in killing OBL—a claim which remains unsubstantiated. This is pure and simple bravado, and it is in my opinion obnoxious. And I am not saying one shouldn't engage Muslims in theological arguments pointing out Islam's spiritual inconsistencies. I am an evangelical Christian, so I have strong theological differences with Islam, and I believe that its practitioners are spiritually deceived. BUT.... I have missionary friends in foreign lands specifically ministering to Muslims, and they will tell you that the fastest way to shut the door on any chance your ministry has of influencing them for Christ is to disrespect their faith. The best way to bring Muslims into the family of Christ is to model Christ to them. That is the door opener.

The makers of Silver Bullet Gun Oil are specifically disrespectful to the Muslim faith. Therefore, whether you view this as spiritual warfare as I do, or purely secular psyops as you mentioned, their advertising does more harm than good—not to mention that they offer no proof that their product was actually used in killing OBL. That makes them dishonest too.

The Annoyed Man wrote:I have no doubt that you are correct about the application of psyops techniques in the WOT, but the subject of this article is not part of any official psyops effort. He's promoting his gun oil by claiming it was used in killing OBL—a claim which remains unsubstantiated. This is pure and simple bravado, and it is in my opinion obnoxious. And I am not saying one shouldn't engage Muslims in theological arguments pointing out Islam's spiritual inconsistencies. I am an evangelical Christian, so I have strong theological differences with Islam, and I believe that its practitioners are spiritually deceived. BUT.... I have missionary friends in foreign lands specifically ministering to Muslims, and they will tell you that the fastest way to shut the door on any chance your ministry has of influencing them for Christ is to disrespect their faith. The best way to bring Muslims into the family of Christ is to model Christ to them. That is the door opener.

The makers of Silver Bullet Gun Oil are specifically disrespectful to the Muslim faith. Therefore, whether you view this as spiritual warfare as I do, or purely secular psyops as you mentioned, their advertising does more harm than good—not to mention that they offer no proof that their product was actually used in killing OBL. That makes them dishonest too.

Correct on all counts! No proof (yet) that the oil is in widespread use among the troops or seal team 6. Also true in respecting their faith to convert them. I have friends who preach to Muslims as have I as well. The Jihadi's are hardcore who have decided to kill. Not much chance converting them. Let the military use whatever psy-op's they can, and for us believers to use our "psy-op" (modeling Christ) before the average Muslim individual BEFORE they become of a Jihadi mindset. Room for both?

https://nypost.com/2023/11/16/business/ ... ropaganda/

Osamas letter addressed to the people of America from 2001 gets viral praise from tick tockers.

Millions of views for young tick tock influencers.

A shame the world is slipping down a slippery slope to total anarchy.

philip964 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:45 pm https://nypost.com/2023/11/16/business/ ... ropaganda/

Osamas letter addressed to the people of America from 2001 gets viral praise from tick tockers.

Millions of views for young tick tock influencers.

A shame the world is slipping down a slippery slope to total anarchy.

Millions of young tik tok booger eating morons. No one should take anything said or done on Tik Tok seriously.

Many of the TikTok users promoting the letter were women.

Ditto all of the ignorant women who are on the Chinese propaganda app.

I am just glad he's dead!

https://truthsocial.com/@BabylonBee/111422629677916476

Osama bin Laden “Hope” posters spotted on college campuses.

Osama bin Laden “Hope” posters spotted on college campuses.

You did notice that was the Babylon Bee, right?