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Re: Gun Safe

Postby PBratton » Tue Aug 25, 2015 12:26 pm

Rule of thumb in the security industry is if it weighs less than 750 lbs. screw it down to the floor.

I'll generally secure it no matter what it weighs.

Make it hard and discouraging to steal.
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Re: Gun Safe

Postby MechAg94 » Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:21 pm

I bought a new Superior Safe last year from Lonestar Gun Safes. The guys deliverying it had the Hilti gun tool and bolted it to the floor when they delivered it. Of course, it isn't moving anywhere.

The nicer safes also have tighter seals or overlapping seal points and it is much more difficult to get a pry bar in the gap. There are a few stores that speciallize in gun safes. I would recommend a visit as you can see a wide range of different price ranges and see what more money will get you. The mark up varies a lot as well so shop around.

You aren't going to get much thicker than 10 or 11 gauge walls and back without getting fairly expensive. I think the sub $1000 safes get a bit thinner than that. The sales brochures will give the thickness info. Most any safe won't stand up to a heavy sledge hammer and/or 6 foot pry bar indefinitely. Even the really expensive ones can be breached assuming the right tools and enough time. Thankfully, most burglars don't carry that stuff or have that much time.

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Re: Gun Safe

Postby PBratton » Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:25 pm

Any safe or vault can be opened with enough patience and tools.

Way back when I worked with Mosler, we were often called in to open a safe or vault when the time locks stopped or were overwound. The safes we drilled, the bank vaults, we went through the wall, it was easier.
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Re: Gun Safe

Postby Rugerboy50 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:14 am

I've talked with both Fort Knox and Liberty safe reps.

I'm going to go with a Liberty Revolution 24 or Fat Boy jr. depending on the door dimensions of where I want to put it.

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Re: Gun Safe

Postby The Annoyed Man » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:41 am

gljjt wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote: The new one weighs 850 lbs. it's not going anywhere.


Bolt it down in a corner. A piano dolly and 2 guys can move that safe no problem. I moved mine with the help of my son. A pair of thieves can get it out the door in less than 5 minutes. Assuming it is downstairs.

Two guys with a piano dolly brought it in from the truck. Don't worry, it will be bolted down, as was the old one. Right now, the room is in the middle of being remodeled, so it's in the center of the room with all the other stuff. But I am philosophical about it....850 lbs AND bolted down in the corner, a safe can still be defeated.

Anybody who (assuming I'm not home at the time) is willing to do whatever it would take to break into the house, get past the dog, and get into the safe, and get all that done and be out BEFORE the cops arrive (there is a motion detector for the alarm system in that room, as well as the alarm breakers at the doors and the windows), is going to get the contents of the safe, bolted down or not. Not that I don't care about arming bad guys, but that's what insurance is for. And God help anybody who attempts it while I'm home.........and I'm almost always at home.
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Re: Gun Safe

Postby TxRVer » Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:32 pm

Rugerboy50 wrote:I've talked with both Fort Knox and Liberty safe reps.

I'm going to go with a Liberty Revolution 24 or Fat Boy jr. depending on the door dimensions of where I want to put it.

The Gander Mountain in Mesquite has a flyer listing the FB Jr. for $1199.99. There's a mail in rebate for a free door panel and humidity rod. Maybe a store near you has the same deal.
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Re: Gun Safe

Postby thatguyoverthere » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:20 pm

Think about where you will locate your safe, also. Inside a closet or small utility room, or other somewhat restricted area might make it a little harder for the "bad guy" to maneuver a pry bar. Of course, don't make it too unhandy to get into for yourself!

Assuming a thief would attempt to pry open the side of the door that is away from the hinges, even placing the safe just in a corner of an open room in the right orientation might make it a little harder for a burglar to work a pry bar.

Inside a garage or work shop might not be the best idea. No reason to make it easier for a thief to break into to your safe using your own tools that are thoughtfully located within easy reach!

Just another aspect to consider.

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Re: Gun Safe

Postby TxRVer » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:21 pm

I was looking at Mesa Safes at Home Depot. A little bit more in price but the specs look good. If you need delivery, the free curbside delivery at Home depot could make the price look better.
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Re: Gun Safe

Postby bmwrdr » Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:20 pm

Rugerboy50 wrote:I'm in the market for a new gun safe.

I'm not looking to break the bank.

Recommendations will be appreciated.



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Re: Gun Safe

Postby TxRVer » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:46 pm

Gebo's has a sale this week with some fantastic prices on UL listed RSCs. Click on the link and go to the last page of the ad. I just bought the Kodiak K5940 for $700. I couldn't believe all the features it has for that price...swing out rack, attached door pockets, and power cord. They also have the Freedom Security Fatboy 64 made by Liberty for under $1000. Gebo's most southern store is in Whitney so this isn't a good deal for those of you in the south. I don't know how they do it but you can't even beat their regular prices.

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Re: Gun Safe

Postby montgomery » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:51 pm

Rugerboy50 wrote:
I'm not looking to break the bank.


Then y'all not REALLY in the market for a new gun safe.

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Re: Gun Safe

Postby Abraham » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:11 pm

Gun safes are a good idea, but from what class of citizen do they generally keep your goods safe?

Family/friends and the odd service guy with sticky fingers?

No doubt quite determined thieves may take the time, tools and effort to steal your guns by assaulting your safe, but I don't recall the last time I read of such a heist.

Does it happen?

Of course, but from what I can determine it isn't a common occurrence.

Why do I speak of such things?

Because, it seems to me (and yes, I could be off base with my line of thinking) most burglars want in and out quickly, quietly and unobtrusively as possible, not drilling, making enough noise to wake the dead and actually having to 'work' much to get what's yours...


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Re: Gun Safe

Postby WTR » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:25 pm

Abraham wrote:Gun safes are a good idea, but from what class of citizen do they generally keep your goods safe?

Family/friends and the odd service guy with sticky fingers?

No doubt quite determined thieves may take the time, tools and effort to steal your guns by assaulting your safe, but I don't recall the last time I read of such a heist.

Does it happen?

Of course, but from what I can determine it isn't a common occurrence.

Why do I speak of such things?

Because, it seems to me (and yes, I could be off base with my line of thinking) most burglars want in and out quickly, quietly and unobtrusively as possible, not drilling, making enough noise to wake the dead and actually having to 'work' much to get what's yours...


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With my demo tools I can get into any gun safe if I want to and I am willing to take the time. I just use a Job Box with two recessed locks that will keep the common burgler out.


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Re: Gun Safe

Postby Abraham » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:44 pm

WTR,

Job box like...Jobox or Ironton or...?

If so, what models would you think good for 8/10 rifles and some handguns?

Thanks!


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Re: Gun Safe

Postby WTR » Sat Nov 18, 2017 2:02 pm

I bought a 48" model from lowes. I later saw a 60" box I could have ordered from Home Depot..... That one would have been perfect. I did get a 32 or 36 inch one to hold ammo. The small one they carried in the store. I think the H D ones are from Rigid.


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