I took the plunge. Edit: now I need magazine help.

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Re: I took the plunge. Edit: now I need magazine help.

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I only got through about 50. I'm going to order a new mag and see if that works.
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Kkpsiknl wrote:I only got through about 50. I'm going to order a new mag and see if that works.
That is a sharp looking 1911. I also like those grips with the stainless steel.

Unless you're opposed to WWB or Federal, I might suggest getting one or two of their 100 round FMJ boxes and run that through to see how it goes before trying any more HP stuff. A couple of additional mags are a must. You'll end up getting more anyway and there's a chance your issue could be a mag problem.

I still carry my Glock, but just got my first 1911 .45ACP back in May of last year. I have to say .45ACP because I bought a Colt 1911-22 for my daughter a couple years ago. It's full size and all, but only .22. 1911's are beautiful firearms and great to shoot. Congratulations. :clapping:
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I took the plunge too mainly because of this group and I really like my Ruger SR1911 and have never had one failure to feed or extract and I use the Ruger mags. I researched the Remington when I was shopping and it got very high ratings but I couldn't find a local store with one in stock. What bothers me is that you are having problems from the get go and with bullets being pushed into cases I don't know if they are still safe to use. I personally don't buy the "run 200 rounds" through it philosophy. If it is not working right call Remington and let them fix it on their dime. How can you trust a gun that doesn't work right out of the box? I will not stoop to the get a Glock argument. I do love my Glock 21 and my Ruger SR1911. I am sure Remington will make it right without your going to a lot of expense with different mags and multiple boxes of ammo.
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Congrats! I think you got a fine pistol. I know it can feel extremely frustrating right now with the issues you're having. But honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about it right now. Get a few shooting sessions and a few hundred rounds through it first, then see where you are at that point.

A couple of years ago I bought a new STI Escort, a fairly high-end officer's size (compact) 1911. I was having issues similar to yours, even using quality plain old ball ammo. But, to get you to what you want to hear, mine runs flawlessly now.

It's hard to say for sure, but I think my problem was a combination of several things. I initially thought that maybe mine did need a "break in." But, after that fact, I'm pretty well convinced that I was the one who needed the break-in, not the gun! I was an experienced shooter, but that was my first 1911. I'm told they handle differently - and the officer's model has a reputation of being even more finicky than a full size, like yours. It's not something that I can put my finger on as to what I do differently now (if anything), but I do think part of my problem was my technique, however subtle it must have been.

The gun only came with one magazine (yes, you will want more). I purchased several new Wilson Combat magazines. They do seem to be quality-built items, but I just seemed to be having a lot of issues using them - mostly nose-dive jams, which sounds like part of what you're experiencing as well.

A helpful soul on this forum recommended Tripp Research magazines. I got a few of those, and they definitely feel smoother operating than the Wilson Combat mags, even just loading them up. I've been using them over a year, and have not had any issues since.

With one caveat - there are a few brands/types of rounds that this gun just does not like. Basically, the big "bucket mouth" hollow points just do not feed reliably in this gun. The more moderately shaped hollow points that are just a little more rounded at the front (and regular ball ammo) all operate just fine.

So, yes, examine the gun to make sure there are no obvious defects that are contributing to your problem. But if you don't find anything, be patient, try not to get too frustrated, and keep working with it. I really bet you'll get it worked out and ultimately be very pleased with your purchase.

Good luck with it!

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So I have narrowed down the problem to the follower allowing the front of the bullet to drop. It is very slight but it is enough for the tip of the round to not slide up the feed ramp. I marked the mags and discovered it is only one that is causing the problem.

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Kkpsiknl wrote:So I have narrowed down the problem to the follower allowing the front of the bullet to drop. It is very slight but it is enough for the tip of the round to not slide up the feed ramp. I marked the mags and discovered it is only one that is causing the problem.
Yoda would be proud, young Jedi! until you replace it or swap spring/follower don't use it- it will only frustrate you with your new gun. You can get spring & followers for $6-$8 and change them out... tripp or wilson both sell them. Or just buy a new mag. (or 5)

Where did you buy the gun? See if they offer any remedy before you spend any money... either a mag swap or at least a discount on a new one.

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Perhaps someone can explain to me why a 1911 is supposed to have problems right out of the box and the new owner is supposed to fix the problem and not the manufacturer. The gun is under warranty. Call Rem9ington and let them fix it. There are always 1911 posts with the same advice, give it more rounds, buy a new mag, etc. You paid for a defective gun or magazine. Remington will fix it for you and probably even give you an extra mag if you are nice. Who knows, maybe your feed ramp has a defect? You want to spend your dollars fixing it that's your business. I have had to send two firearms back in my career and the defect was fixed free of charge.

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I picked it up at Academy for what I thought was a very reasonable $715. Today I picked up 3 Chip McCormick combat power mags from gt distributors. And to answer Rotor, I have sent guns back to manufacturers before however I like to put them through their paces first. I am taking it out tomorrow afternoon and if it has problems with the other magazines it will go back but I want to put significantly more than the 70 or so rounds through it than I already have.
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rotor wrote:Perhaps someone can explain to me why a 1911 is supposed to have problems right out of the box and the new owner is supposed to fix the problem and not the manufacturer. The gun is under warranty. Call Rem9ington and let them fix it. There are always 1911 posts with the same advice, give it more rounds, buy a new mag, etc. You paid for a defective gun or magazine. Remington will fix it for you and probably even give you an extra mag if you are nice. Who knows, maybe your feed ramp has a defect? You want to spend your dollars fixing it that's your business. I have had to send two firearms back in my career and the defect was fixed free of charge.
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Why do we expect any less from guns, just because, there are those who say it's a normal part of the ownership process?

Break in? Finicky feeding issues? Factory mag/recoil/trigger/ springs?

Why do we demand out of the box (or off the showroom floor) quality from everything else we buy, but allow poor performance from something that could potentially, one day, save our life, or the lives of someone we love?

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Jusme- It's not just 1911's... go to any mfr forum and you'll see it.. even glock. :shock:

I'd be pretty mad if my gun didn't run out of the box... maybe I've just been luck all of my life, but i haven't sent a gun back for warranty work ever. Now for an $8 spring & follower I might just suck it up. (or send back the mag for replacement... but he needs to be sure it's the mag only before making that decision.)

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I love the 1911 pistol. Feels great and shoots even better BUT.............. here is the big problem I have with them. Most cases I have seen and have talked to people there is always a "break in". I'm sorry but paying a bunch of money for a gun you have to break in doesn't sit right with me. If I bought another glock brand new and I have had 5 or 6 it would work no problems right out of the box almost 100% guaranteed. That's been my experience. I do break them down and clean them before I shoot them if its brand new but my first one (glock 19 which I still carry everyday) I didn't. I just pulled it out of the box and almost 2k rounds later I've never had an issue not one. I don't like a gun that's picky on its ammo. If I have a gun that is I sell it. If it's like that I lose faith in the firearm. And I have to have confindece in my tools which means I go through a lot until I find what works for me. I don't own any 1911's at the moment but I have and to me they are too heavy to carry. some say polymer guns won't be around in 50 years but I'm pretty sure my Glocks will and will be passed down. Sorry I had to be the guy to say buy a glock.
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Wilson Combat Mags for me. I have never used any other mag so I can't speak for the rest.
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All semi-autos (Magazines): Always mark your mags and record all failures along with ammo brand, type, weight and magazine. If a magazine is suspected of being faulty diagnose the magazine further. Swap the spring and follower with another magazines and record which magazine has which one's parts, then test fire for malfunctions. If the magazine that was good starts malfunctioning replace both the follower (If polymer) and magazine. If the Same magazine continues to fail remove all components from the magazine body and repair the body with a hammer or boot heel. When finished it should never fit inside a weapon again. Return known good magazine parts to known good magazine and order replacement mag. Keep good springs, followers, and base plates on hand for future magazine repairs. If neither magazine malfunctions or they both do order new springs and followers for both magazines.

1911s (Magazines): All the above magazine advice applies. Buy quality magazines from sources known to produce quality magazines for your firearm. OEM parts are often preferable for many brands of firearms but not with 1911s. CMC and Wilson magazines are usually good magazines, although for the money nothing is more reliable than a quality 7 round hybrid feed lip magazine with a flat top dimpled follower. My preferred brands for these are Metalform and Checkmate. Check various 1911 forums for magazine posts by a user under the name 1911Tuner or similar.

All Semi-Autos (In General): a 500 round break-in period is strongly recommended for all firearms, not to break the gun in but to ensure you are familiar with the firearm and it's operation. It also serves to provide a method to determine if the firearm is reliable or not. I would advise repeating this on carry guns at least once a year. It also serves as an excuse to hit the range.

1911s (In General): Do not polish, sand, file, or otherwise alter the metal anywhere on your 1911 unless you like spending money to have a gun fixed by a competent professional. No matter what anyone says a Dremel is not a 1911s friend, best or otherwise, they are in fact mortal enemies. Like any quality firearm a 1911 should not need any work out of the box in order to function reliably. Often 1911 problems are magazine induced or grip/stance/technique related issues that new shooters are not aware they have developed. Out of all the 1911s I have owned every malfunction has been magazine or shooter related (Even my own malfunctions).
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cmgee67 wrote: Sorry I had to be the guy to say buy a glock.
I have them, all the 9mm models except the long slide. I will continue to carry either my 26 or 19 on a daily basis.
That being said my daily driver is a 1994 Ford Explorer that runs fine and gets me where I need to go. I also have a 77 Chevy Impala in the garage. And while it does have the occasional problem, the Impala feels better, looks better, and is a ton of more fun on the weekend.

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cmgee67 wrote: Sorry I had to be the guy to say buy a glock.
No need to be sorry! In most cases, glock is a fine weapon. However, it's not the be all end all or the best option for everyone.

THe last several of pistol classes I took had a number of pistol malfunctions,however, not a single 1911 failure. I'm not really sure what that means, but at a minimum, it proves that some 1911's run and some plastic fantastics don't. :tiphat:

(said the guy who also owns plastic guns)
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