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Re: I just had a reality check

Postby The Annoyed Man » Fri Jun 23, 2017 8:47 pm

JustSomeOldGuy wrote:Boer War was Britain vs. Dutch in southern Africa at about the same time. A young Winston Churchill gained some military experience in that one.

The story of Churchill's escape from a POW camp is Indiana Jones stuff, and all true. BTW, he was supposed to be there in a non-combat role, but that boy always did like a good fight.
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Re: I just had a reality check

Postby John Galt » Fri Jun 23, 2017 9:24 pm

I had been giving some thoughts to this subject. There are some situations in which I will just take the 42 or 43, but in others will dress accordingly and conceal the G 19 or the FN 509. I would rather not have to bother with another mag.


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Re: I just had a reality check

Postby NotRPB » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:25 pm

For .45 I carry Glock 30S (not SF) (about size of Glock 26) with Glock 21 Magazine with +2 baseplate for 16 rounds
I have an Xd with Plus3 baseplate for 16 rounds of .45, but it's bigger and heavy

For Capacity I carry a Glock 26 with Glock 17 mag with +3 Pircegrip baseplate for 21 rounds of 9mm (20+1)

I always carry a BUG Glock 26 in pocket with usually 16 rounds of 9mm 15+1 rounds using a Glock 19 mag, sometimes I go light using a Glock26 mag with +3 baseplate for just 14 (13+1) rounds of 9mm in the BUG

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Re: I just had a reality check

Postby The Annoyed Man » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:36 pm

John Galt wrote:I had been giving some thoughts to this subject. There are some situations in which I will just take the 42 or 43, but in others will dress accordingly and conceal the G 19 or the FN 509. I would rather not have to bother with another mag.

The primary reason I carry a second magazine is in the event of a magazine-related malfunction. Yeah, it's a Glock, and a magazine malfunction is unlikely, but Murphy always seems to show up when it is least convenient. So.... spare magazine it is.
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Re: I just had a reality check

Postby warnmar10 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:08 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote:I would say, go back to carrying your Glock 19, which it wasn't that long ago you were singing its praises as the perfect carry pistol on the pages of this forum. ...
That's my 2¢. YMMV.
Ditto Sig 226 carried IWB at 4 o'clock...

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Re: I just had a reality check

Postby warnmar10 » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:11 pm

cmgee67 wrote:This Did not happen in real life but it happened in a dream. ...
Point of order: Isn't "reality check" and "it happened in a dream" a contradiction in terms? It sounds more like a fantasy to me.


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Re: I just had a reality check

Postby twomillenium » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:21 am

LimaCharlie3 wrote:I too have had reality checks, only they weren't dreams. Take from it what you will. I lean towards preferring a heavier, faster round but I still carry a .380 several days a week. Better to carry something than nothing at all, I say.
Several years ago I was in a huge, multi-agency manhunt. At least 30 cars all tryin to get the escaped inmate armed with a hospital guards' gun. In the end, he baled out in a farmers field and took the suicide by cop route. He was hit over 40 times with 9mm. That didn't stop him; it was the lone .357 magnum fired by a reserve deputy that was the only mortal wound. Simply amazing to me then. Shortly after that the department went to .357sig and the city pd went to .40.
Now, my conflicting perspective: my partner had to shoot a guy breaking into his home and hit him 5 times with a .357 magnum, point blank range. Didn't stop him! He kept advancing so far as to rip the bathroom door off the hinges tryin to get to his girlfriend hiding in there. He finally passed out from blood loss but didn't perish. He went to prison. He was on PCP.
So, a few big rounds, a lotta small rounds.... I just can't say which is better anymore. On a side note - that .357sig works. Bad guy shot a deputy, deputy returned fire and dropped that bad guy on the spot. Sorry if I've added to your indecision!

I call Bravo Sierra. Unless you have pictures,if you don't have pictures it didn't happen. On the other hand, they are still good stories. :biggrinjester:
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Re: I just had a reality check

Postby warnmar10 » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:23 am

twomillenium wrote:I call Bravo Sierra. Unless you have pictures,if you don't have pictures it didn't happen. On the other hand, they are still good stories.
Remember when you were a kid and there was this monthly publication the very mention of which probably violates one or another forum rule but, speaking of forum or Forum as it were...

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Re: I just had a reality check

Postby JustSomeOldGuy » Sat Jun 24, 2017 12:43 pm

warnmar10 wrote:
twomillenium wrote:I call Bravo Sierra. Unless you have pictures,if you don't have pictures it didn't happen. On the other hand, they are still good stories.
Remember when you were a kid and there was this monthly publication the very mention of which probably violates one or another forum rule but, speaking of forum or Forum as it were...


True Detective? Mad Magazine? Cracked? (some of the 'questionable' reading material from my youth). :biggrinjester:
Actually, I'm sure I know who/what you meant. :oops: I didn't believe at least half of that stuff either......
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Re: I just had a reality check

Postby The Annoyed Man » Sat Jun 24, 2017 2:27 pm

WTR wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
cmgee67 wrote:I'm not goin to stop carrying the 45 shield at work because I have to stay concleaed and I do love my Glock 19. I think I will go with what TAM said and carry my 19 if I need more capacity. I didn't think about buying more holsters and such. That's a good point. I can stick with what I have and make it work. I still sing of the 19's praises it's a great gun. I tried a 2.0 M&p today and I found it too hard to conceal so I didn't pull the trigger. I think I'll just spend more money on ammo and mags for my shield and 19 and go with that. I need the shield in some places due to staying concealed. I loovvvve that gun. For its size and slimness. That 5" on the 2.0 were a little much for me today especially since I carry appending or 3:30 owb strong side and conceal.

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BTW, I'd be surprised if Pearce (or somebody else) didn't make a +2 mag extension for your Shield. What I did with my G43 is keep the standard OEM mag with the pinky rest as is, and I put a +2 extender on the spare mag - giving me 8 rounds instead of 6 in that mag. I keep the 6 round mag in the gun because it conceals mo' bettah, and the extended as a backup. I'll bet you can set your Shield up the same way.


The gang and drug unit Police Officers that I knew, all praised the .45 for it's ability to put the bad guys down quickly ( even the ones on PCP). I met one "tunnel rat" from Vietnam Nam who praised the 45 for putting a Viet Cong down quickly. The P Officers prefer a .357 as a back up. These were guys who have been there and done that.

And I predominantly carried .45 for most of the time that I've had a license. It wasn't until a couple of years ago that I decided to start carrying 9mm predominantly. I am completely OK with that decision, and do not feel under-armed. Nothing wrong with .45. I'm just not carrying it any longer because I decided I liked my 9mm Glocks enough.
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Re: I just had a reality check

Postby OldCurlyWolf » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:29 pm

cmgee67 wrote:This Did not happen in real life but it happened in a dream. And while it was only a dream it put everything into perspective. If I was going to be in a self defense situation of not just me but my wife with say 3 attackers my 45 shield in my opinion wouldn't have enough rounds even though I carry a back up mag. I'm not a perfect shot and with that many targets and opportunities I'd miss. I love the M&p pistols and how the feel especially the new grip texture that's in my shield. I'm heavily considering buying an M&P 2.0 9mm. 17+1 cap. Plus I'd carry a back up mag. 35 rounds of 9mm is pretty good.

What are your thoughts am I over thinking this and just had a. As dream or is there any truth to my thoughts. I think there most certainly is. That old saying if you knew you were gonna be in a gun fight wouldn't you carry all you can?


I carry 2-4 backup mags for my Colt Delta Elite.
My Wilsons are 9 rounds and my Colts are 8 rounds. That means a minimum of 27 rounds to 43 rounds until I can get to my vehicle where there are 6 - 8 more loaded magazines. I know, under all but the most extreme circumstances, more than enough. But if at all possible, prepare for the extremes. It makes the normal problems seem small.
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