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Re: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired

Postby MechAg94 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:46 pm

I like the 320 that I have. Very reliable and I think the modular feature ought to bring about some interesting aftermarket options once the military use ramps up. That said, I will still carry my CZ pistols for now as I just shoot those more accurately than anything else I own.

I am hearing stuff indicating it really depends on what trigger was installed. I also heard the trigger in the military pistols isn't the same as the civilian 320. I guess I will have to wait and see as more info comes out.

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Postby The Annoyed Man » Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:20 pm

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/08/08/p320-failed-without-even-dropping-no-plans-test/
With all the information coming to light where the P320 failed when dropped, It got me thinking. What if you could replicate the failure with a sharp blow on the back of the slide? I talked to some people that have conducted professional drop tests and was told that sometimes a hammer or mallet is used for the testing.

I grabbed my well used Brownells 1″ gunsmith hammer and loaded a primed case into the chamber, then smacked it on the back of the slide. Sure, it isn’t super scientific, but it does show that the pistol will fail on command.

The gun failed the test.
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Postby flechero » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:42 am

The Annoyed Man wrote:http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/08/08/p320-failed-without-even-dropping-no-plans-test/
With all the information coming to light where the P320 failed when dropped, It got me thinking. What if you could replicate the failure with a sharp blow on the back of the slide? I talked to some people that have conducted professional drop tests and was told that sometimes a hammer or mallet is used for the testing.

I grabbed my well used Brownells 1″ gunsmith hammer and loaded a primed case into the chamber, then smacked it on the back of the slide. Sure, it isn’t super scientific, but it does show that the pistol will fail on command.

The gun failed the test.


This commentary is directed at TFB, not at TAM. :tiphat:

This is surprising? The gun already failed (proven and repeated) from a sharp blow to the rear... so this time just using using a tool to produce the sharp blow to the rear to induce failure is now news? It's the same thing! :lol:

Suddenly anyone with a 320 and no concern for hurting it is "testing" in the name of safety and science! I think TFB just needed/wanted some publicity and jumped onto a hot topic's coat tails.


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Re: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired

Postby MechAg94 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:58 am

So how many guns would fail that test if a hammer were put right on the back of the striker? Is that normal for any current safety tests?

I heard the pistol did go through drop testing so I am curious what the difference is between what was done to induce the failure and the "official" testing they do. Also, I heard someone say the military pistols and one of the upgraded models already has an improved trigger that won't do this. Does that mean only certain serial numbers are affected? I guess I will wait and see what comes out.


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Re: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired

Postby MechAg94 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:15 am

flechero wrote:This commentary is directed at TFB, not at TAM. :tiphat:

This is surprising? The gun already failed (proven and repeated) from a sharp blow to the rear... so this time just using using a tool to produce the sharp blow to the rear to induce failure is now news? It's the same thing! :lol:

Suddenly anyone with a 320 and no concern for hurting it is "testing" in the name of safety and science! I think TFB just needed/wanted some publicity and jumped onto a hot topic's coat tails.

Considering the stuff with Springfield and RRA earlier this year, that does seem to be part of their business model.

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Postby Scott B. » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:50 am

http://soldiersystems.net/2017/08/08/si ... 0-upgrade/

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Re: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired

Postby rotor » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:05 am

P320 Romeo. Now we wait for official notice. I wonder how long they will keep the gun.

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Postby AndyC » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:33 pm

warnmar10 wrote:
AndyC wrote:Image

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Thank you - I have no idea why pictures I post suddenly stop working after a little while.
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Re: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired

Postby warnmar10 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:45 pm

AndyC wrote:
warnmar10 wrote:
AndyC wrote:Image

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Thank you - I have no idea why pictures I post suddenly stop working after a little while.
In this example, picpaste.com really doesn't want anyone to link to images stored on their servers. I found a workaround.


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Postby rotor » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:58 pm

AndyC wrote:
warnmar10 wrote:
AndyC wrote:Image

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Thank you - I have no idea why pictures I post suddenly stop working after a little while.

Use http://imgur.com/

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Re: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired

Postby Beiruty » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:18 pm

SIG stopped production of civilian P320. All new production would have drop-resistant trigger as an enhancement. Meanwhile, never ever drop your pistol or you would be DisQualified, DQ that is.... :smilelol5: :smilelol5: :smilelol5:
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Re: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired

Postby AndyC » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:01 pm

warnmar10 wrote:
AndyC wrote:Thank you - I have no idea why pictures I post suddenly stop working after a little while.
In this example, picpaste.com really doesn't want anyone to link to images stored on their servers. I found a workaround.

They're a picture-hosting company! What else are we supposed to with their service? :lol:
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Re: BREAKING: P320 Recall Issued By Dallas Police | Prohibited From Duty Till Repaired

Postby oljames3 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:05 pm

Given that the Sig P320 issue first surfaced with a law enforcement officer being shot in the heel, will Glock Leg be replace by shrill cries of "Sig Heel!!"? :biggrinjester: :biggrinjester:
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