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Building something cheaply is often predicated on already having experience and tools that are not cheap. Building your 4th AR is likely very cheap. Building your first is not.

apostate wrote:

Your Judas, is a killer. No forgiveness is requested.

Lot of recommendations for newer manufacturers in the AR space listed here. PSA, Springfield, Ruger, etc. Not to say they aren't good/great guns or even reputable companies that should be considered but most have only been in ARs for a few years or so... Personally, for a first AR I'd probably go with any of the many companies who have been doing it for a while... Smith and Colt are hard to argue against for a first gun that'll not disappoint and be reliable. Both have options in that price range. DPMS, Rock River, Stag, etc are also good priced options. Plenty of others who have been in the AR game forever also that can be great options but if he wants a standard setup any of the above have you covered.

Beiruty wrote:

jb2012 wrote:

1911 Raptor wrote:

Beiruty wrote:Link?

Grab A Gun Ruger AR 499.00

https://grabagun.com/ruger-ar-556-black ... -30rd.html

That’s a steal

How is the Ruger in terms of accuracy and zhootability

Sorry just seeing this. I haven’t actually shot one, but I really like Ruger as a brand, and typically see those running for $699. It doesn’t have a free floated barrel, so I wouldn’t expect to stack bullets with it, however it should easily do 2 moa with most ammunition I would assume.

My friend ended up ordering a S&W MP15 Soprt II less than $500 delivered.

That was a good choice. Hard to go wrong there for a first AR

Last night, I zeroed my friend's new SW Sporter-2 flat top rifle with UTG steel folding sights. The rifle was very sweet, trigger is very nice for a factory rifle. Very accurate at 10-25 yard with Iron sights. After zeroed, my friend was able to shoot in 2" circle at 10-25 yards.

I know that is not remarkable, but I am not an Iron Sight shooter.

I confess to not reading the entire thread so it may have already been mentioned but just in case here's an excellent company to work with. Everyone there is a veteran. They do good work using quality components.

https://www.battleriflecompany.com/

Another nice outfit is https://fungunswaco.com.

I believe most of their staff are veterans. They sometimes run the most wonderfully politically incorrect TV ads during the local 10 o'clock news, and they get some angry email in return. Apparently, some folks think it takes a lot of gall to show semiautomatic rifles and smiles in the same video segment. I can't think of a better setting for a 2nd Amendment advertisement than during a 1st Amendment presentation like the news, but I'm odd that way.

Their prices seem competitive, although I'm not an AR expert. If you pick out parts you want to build into a complete rifle, you get a nice discount off the price and they properly assemble the upper receiver, barrel, and bolt group for you at no charge, using good tools and craftsmanship. If you choose premium parts you hit $800 pretty quick, but I suspect you get a heck of a rifle out of the deal.

When I get the loot together for an AR15 of my very own, I don't think I'll price shop. I like the staff at Fun Guns, I like component-built guns (when done right), and I really like Fun Guns' attitude.

Imagine a day at the office at Black Rifle Coffee Company. Now imagine they sold firearms, not beverages, and they were just a short hop down the highway. If I end up paying a little more, I won't regret it, and I suspect I might actually save a little.

treadlightly wrote:Another nice outfit is https://fungunswaco.com.

I believe most of their staff are veterans. They sometimes run the most wonderfully politically incorrect TV ads during the local 10 o'clock news, and they get some angry email in return. Apparently, some folks think it takes a lot of gall to show semiautomatic rifles and smiles in the same video segment. I can't think of a better setting for a 2nd Amendment advertisement than during a 1st Amendment presentation like the news, but I'm odd that way.

Their prices seem competitive, although I'm not an AR expert. If you pick out parts you want to build into a complete rifle, you get a nice discount off the price and they properly assemble the upper receiver, barrel, and bolt group for you at no charge, using good tools and craftsmanship. If you choose premium parts you hit $800 pretty quick, but I suspect you get a heck of a rifle out of the deal.

When I get the loot together for an AR15 of my very own, I don't think I'll price shop. I like the staff at Fun Guns, I like component-built guns (when done right), and I really like Fun Guns' attitude.

Imagine a day at the office at Black Rifle Coffee Company. Now imagine they sold firearms, not beverages, and they were just a short hop down the highway. If I end up paying a little more, I won't regret it, and I suspect I might actually save a little.

They do have some fun ads! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2XaZ3 ... 7c0e2VVavA

LDB415 wrote:I confess to not reading the entire thread so it may have already been mentioned but just in case here's an excellent company to work with. Everyone there is a veteran. They do good work using quality components.

https://www.battleriflecompany.com/

What AR are they selling at $700 max? Their website lists a base model that's a couple hundred over his budget.


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Nutcracker wrote:What AR are they selling at $700 max? Their website lists a base model that's a couple hundred over his budget.

@ $499
Here: https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore ... /ID/192093