Sub-2000, 9mm, Gen 2, Glock, on Grabagun, $399

[jmorris]

I know some here have expressed an interest so, without further ado,
https://grabagun.com/kel-tec-sub-2000-9 ... ly%20Email

[NotRPB]

bought my second one not longago,this time stainless .... I like the Stainless one more than the first one I had; it's already sat all night n the Hospital 30.06+30.07 posted Emergency Room all night with me without misbehaving once.

[Jose_in_Dallas]

For those of you that have these, how reliable have they been? And looking at the Grabagun ad, it says not to use aluminum cased ammo with it. What's the deal with that?

[jmorris]

300-400 rounds through my gen 1, .40 cal, with no problems. I believe some of that was aluminum case but won't swear to it. Don't know what the problem is.

[JustSomeOldGuy]

For those of you that have these, how reliable have they been? And looking at the Grabagun ad, it says not to use aluminum cased ammo with it. What's the deal with that?

300-400 rounds through my gen 1, .40 cal, with no problems. I believe some of that was aluminum case but won't swear to it. Don't know what the problem is.

At a guess, some extractors handle aluminum rims better than others. Other guess would be, the typical Glock case-not-fully-supported chamber?

[maverick2076]

I’ve got north of 2k rounds through mine, and I’m sure at least some of it was aluminum cased, and I’ve never had an issue.

[bblhd672]

Few hundred rounds through mine, never used aluminum case just brass and steel- no problems.

I went to gun show in Round Rock this past weekend and saw several Sub2k’s for sale. One guy even had a couple of the ones that use S&W magazines, first time I’ve seen anything other than the Glock mag ones.

[mot7981]

I had a Gen 1 model that ran S&W mags that I picked up used. It was fun but not very reliable. I sold that and picked up a new Gen 2 model at a great price. I think part of the reason it was cheaper was because it used Beretta 92 mags. I have a 92 so that’s no problem. So far it’s been perfect with Freedom brass reloads (I’ve not tried any aluminum yet). I also like all the improvements to the Gen 2 version. For what it’s worth, I’ve used several mags including a 30 round extended one with no problem. I also highly recommend the Tacticool bolt tube cover.

[bblhd672]

I had a Gen 1 model that ran S&W mags that I picked up used. It was fun but not very reliable. I sold that and picked up a new Gen 2 model at a great price. I think part of the reason it was cheaper was because it used Beretta 92 mags. I have a 92 so that’s no problem. So far it’s been perfect with Freedom brass reloads (I’ve not tried any aluminum yet). I also like all the improvements to the Gen 2 version. For what it’s worth, I’ve used several mags including a 30 round extended one with no problem. I also highly recommend the Tacticool bolt tube cover.

Do you attribute the "not very reliable" to the S&W mags or that it was a Gen1? My S2K is the only weapon I have that uses Glock mags, so I've thought about getting one that takes the S&W mags since my full size 9mm pistol is a S&W M&P. However, I like the fact that the Glock mags come in a 30 round version and S&W does not (S&W manufactured, I try to stay away from pistol mags not made by the pistol manufacturer).

[carlson1]

bought my second one not longago,this time stainless .... I like the Stainless one more than the first one I had; it's already sat all night n the Hospital 30.06+30.07 posted Emergency Room all night with me without misbehaving once.

Okay help me out here. I have read before how you can carry these into hospitals, doctors, etc... who post 30.06/.07 signs. How is this possible if they have included along with their other signs a “no firearms” sign?

I have thought about one of these, but would like to know the law how you can legally carry this into business that has posted signs.

[ninjabread]

bought my second one not longago,this time stainless .... I like the Stainless one more than the first one I had; it's already sat all night n the Hospital 30.06+30.07 posted Emergency Room all night with me without misbehaving once.

Okay help me out here. I have read before how you can carry these into hospitals, doctors, etc... who post 30.06/.07 signs. How is this possible if they have included along with their other signs a “no firearms” sign?

I have thought about one of these, but would like to know the law how you can legally carry this into business that has posted signs.

Has there been a test case? Are we sure it's illegal in a public accommodation? Would police arrest somebody with a cell phone if there's a "no cellphone" sign on the front door of a coffee shop? How about a "no hipsters" sign?

[NotRPB]

bought my second one not longago,this time stainless .... I like the Stainless one more than the first one I had; it's already sat all night n the Hospital 30.06+30.07 posted Emergency Room all night with me without misbehaving once.

Okay help me out here. I have read before how you can carry these into hospitals, doctors, etc... who post 30.06/.07 signs. How is this possible if they have included along with their other signs a “no firearms” sign?

I have thought about one of these, but would like to know the law how you can legally carry this into business that has posted signs.

30.06/30.07 addresses licensees only, and handguns only, so what they say is irrelevant to a long gun or an unlicensed person, 30/06/30.07 are not applicable to anyone NOT carrying a handgun under a handgun license

no firearms sign? I have not seen one, but if they had one and I wanted to carry a pistol, I'd have to carry ... what a 1800s black powder revolver
http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/D ... /PE.46.htm

Sec. 46.01. DEFINITIONS. In this chapter:
Firearm does not include a firearm that may have, as an integral part, a folding knife blade or other characteristics of weapons made illegal by this chapter and that is:

(A) an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899; or

(B) a replica of an antique or curio firearm manufactured before 1899, but only if the replica does not use rim fire or center fire ammunition.

no firearms sign? I have not seen one ... I guess I'd not carry my longarm if it was a valid30.05 sign (I AM NOT saying if the one below is valid or not ... I'm not a lawyer, but if you research a bit, you may know)
I'd just have to carry my pepper spray, Taser, Machete, Sword, BullWhip & steel toes boots with that James Bond Knife in the toe, my HIckory fighting club, oopps I mean HIckory walking cane (along with my 1800s black powder revolver ) I suppose

[carlson1]

I like the ideal of having it folded in a back pack where there are only 30.06/.07 signs. I have seen some “no firearms” signs, but not along with the 30.06/.07 signs. So is it fair to “assume” then the long gun comcealed would be legal where there are NO generic firearm signs?

[apostate]

I like the ideal of having it folded in a back pack where there are only 30.06/.07 signs. I have seen some “no firearms” signs, but not along with the 30.06/.07 signs. So is it fair to “assume” then the long gun comcealed would be legal where there are NO generic firearm signs?

Unless it's a location prohibited by TPC 46.03 or by Federal law, I don't know how it would be illegal.

[carlson1]

I like the ideal of having it folded in a back pack where there are only 30.06/.07 signs. I have seen some “no firearms” signs, but not along with the 30.06/.07 signs. So is it fair to “assume” then the long gun comcealed would be legal where there are NO generic firearm signs?

Unless it's a location prohibited by TPC 46.03 or by Federal law, I don't know how it would be illegal.