Close call almost had to draw

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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby Skiprr » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:20 pm

Well, I don't know Wyoming's laws, but there could have been an issue in Texas. Refer to PC §9.31 item 2: "...Did not provoke the person against whom the force was used...."
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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby TexasTornado » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:31 pm

Skiprr wrote:Well, I don't know Wyoming's laws, but there could have been an issue in Texas. Refer to PC §9.31 item 2: "...Did not provoke the person against whom the force was used...."


I'm still not seeing provocation.

1. Appologizes
2. Moves vehicle
3. Tells the aggressor to (paraphrasing again) 'mind their own business'

What in that suggests the OP was pressing for a fight?
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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby parabelum » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:39 pm

TT,

He should have folded'em at #2 above and mozied on. My opinion of course.

OP may have some regrets in how he handled the situation, hence the post to ask how forum members would have handled this.
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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby TexasTornado » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:43 pm

parabelum wrote:TT,

He should have folded'em at #2 above and mozied on. My opinion of course.


Probably. "If you can't say nuthin nice..." but again, no Miss Manners course is required to get an LTC.
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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby Surgeon » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:43 pm

The message here, at least to me, is proof that "an armed society is a polite society". You were polite he was not. You helped him attain that status....quickly.
I guess we'll never know what the other guys true intentions were or would have been and thankfully it all ended without incident. Look on the bright side, the other guy is probably dog cussing his encounter with you to his friends (who already know what a jerk he is) about all the things he "shoulda, woulda, coulda done" and its burning him up inside. Reflect on that for a while.
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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby WTR » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:29 pm

What you said may have antagonized the jerk. With him being in a P/U he might have pulled up 50 yards, pulled out an AR , and had a Turkey Shoot. I would have just apologized again. Especially if my wife was with me.


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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby jb2012 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:34 pm

WTR wrote:What you said may have antagonized the jerk. With him being in a P/U he might have pulled up 50 yards, pulled out an AR , and had a Turkey Shoot. I would have just apologized again. Especially if my wife was with me.


That's a pretty big what-if over an argument haha


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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby o b juan » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:38 pm

why do new posters ask the question?

Almost had to draw?

Have occasionally had some in class that Had the shoot scenario thrown out to class by someone.. The are usually tryng to get attention and show they are MACHO. Very similair to the guys who just have to OC so they can see the fear in someones eyes.
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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby WTR » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:46 pm

jb2012 wrote:
WTR wrote:What you said may have antagonized the jerk. With him being in a P/U he might have pulled up 50 yards, pulled out an AR , and had a Turkey Shoot. I would have just apologized again. Especially if my wife was with me.


That's a pretty big what-if over an argument haha



The guy has already been shown to be a jerk. He has already been thought to have been reaching for a weapon. How many good ole boy in Wyoming probably carry a scoped center fire rifle in their truck? Only takes one what if to ruin your day.

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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby TexasTornado » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:07 pm

o b juan wrote:why do new posters ask the question?

Almost had to draw?

Have occasionally had some in class that Had the shoot scenario thrown out to class by someone.. The are usually tryng to get attention and show they are MACHO. Very similair to the guys who just have to OC so they can see the fear in someones eyes.
I let them talk and then shut them down trying not to embarise them


I do not understand the continual slamming of those who choose to OC that takes place on this forum.

I understand that OC may not be your cup of tea, but saying that people "OC so they can see the fear in someones eyes," makes you sound presumptuous and judgemental. JMHO.
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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby remanifest » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:20 pm

I do not see a problem with letting someone know you will defend yourself if you feel threatened.
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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby AJSully421 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:25 pm

Your key phrase, and try to say it with as little sarcasm as you can muster in the moment, is:

"Sorry 'bout that."

"Hey, you Texans think you can do whatever you want!" "Sorry 'bout that."

"Hey, this area is for boatin', not whatever you's a doin" "Sorry 'bout that."

Hey, your dog just peed all over my $1,000 boots" "Sorry 'bout that."


Then you can honestly reply in court: "Well, I told that feller that I was sorry, and then he pulled a pistol and I had to shoot him to get him to stop."

It goes over better than "I told him to shut his facial orifice and he pulled a pistol..."
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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby cirus » Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:43 am

Everyone says they would do this or that or the op should have done this or that. Until your faced with the situation you don't know what you would do. Quit being so judgemental.

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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby The Annoyed Man » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:30 am

WTR wrote:What you said may have antagonized the jerk. With him being in a P/U he might have pulled up 50 yards, pulled out an AR , and had a Turkey Shoot. I would have just apologized again. Especially if my wife was with me.

EdnaBambrick wrote:What do the rest of you cowboys think?

I'm not a cowboy. All that talking was time that could have been spent just driving away. No parking spot, no matter where, is worth a gunfight.
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Re: Close call almost had to draw

Postby twomillenium » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:36 am

TexasTornado wrote:
o b juan wrote:why do new posters ask the question?

Almost had to draw?

Have occasionally had some in class that Had the shoot scenario thrown out to class by someone.. The are usually tryng to get attention and show they are MACHO. Very similair to the guys who just have to OC so they can see the fear in someones eyes.
I let them talk and then shut them down trying not to embarise them


I do not understand the continual slamming of those who choose to OC that takes place on this forum.

I understand that OC may not be your cup of tea, but saying that people "OC so they can see the fear in someones eyes," makes you sound presumptuous and judgemental. JMHO.

That is not what was said, you edited the statement thus editing the meaning. The poster said, "guys who just have to OC so they can see the fear in someones eyes". (They are out there, you know it, I know it, We all know it) The poster did not say all OC was like that, but your editing made it seem that way.

Also, you are right, Miss Manners is not required to get LTC, but DISPUTE RESILUTION is. If someone listened to that part of the class, they would have already known that dispute resolution was not being followed. When you use offensive language not only do you show lack of intellect, but it could be considered provocation. :tiphat:
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