Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

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Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

Postby E.Marquez » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:01 am

http://www.kcentv.com/news/local/fort-h ... /356306396

The dumb stunt on the evasion notwithstanding.. Im trying to figure out the "illegal gun"
I will be interested if they charge him for mere possession without a LTC...as that would imply the DA does not believe motorcycle riders have the ability to carry a weapon in thier "vehicle" without a license. I suppose once he was off the bike and running.....that could be the basis of the charge, and if he had remained on the bike, no charge like that would have been made???
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Postby C-dub » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:15 am

Maybe it's a technicality? How does one get "in" a motorcycle? :biggrinjester:
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Re: Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

Postby Jusme » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:20 am

While committing a crime i.e. fleeing or evading arrest, reckless driving etc. Also since he abandoned his bike, and wasn't on property that he owned or had control of, the possession would then become illegal.
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Postby RogueUSMC » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:32 am

We tend to split hairs on this forum...lol

The gun isn't illegal...his CARRY, however, is UNLAWFUL...depending on license or lack thereof...
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Re: Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

Postby E.Marquez » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:53 am

C-dub wrote:Maybe it's a technicality? How does one get "in" a motorcycle? :biggrinjester:

That's actually part of my concern ...if the DA is of the opinion one can not carry a concealed weapon on a motorcycle under MPA...thats a problem and will need to be addressed.
This case however I can see (as have others) many ways the charge of illegally carrying a concealed weapon may have been charged having nothing to do with MPA issues.
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Re: Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

Postby Jusme » Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:56 am

RogueUSMC wrote:We tend to split hairs on this forum...lol

The gun isn't illegal...his CARRY, however, is UNLAWFUL...depending on license or lack thereof...



Well, a person on a motorcycle can still carry just like you can in a car, under the castle doctrine, however, if you were to flee from the police in your car, the act of committing a crime, would also carry the same penalty.
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Postby ELB » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:25 am

The MPA protection applies only if you are not doing anything more illegal than a Class C misdemeanor traffic offense. Driving 200 mph and fleeing the police probably exceeds "Class C misdemeanor," I would guess. ;-)
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Re: Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

Postby ScottDLS » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:50 am

E.Marquez wrote:http://www.kcentv.com/news/local/fort-hood-soldier-flees-dps-going-200-mph-on-motorcycle-while-carrying-illegal-gun/356306396

The dumb stunt on the evasion notwithstanding.. Im trying to figure out the "illegal gun"
I will be interested if they charge him for mere possession without a LTC...as that would imply the DA does not believe motorcycle riders have the ability to carry a weapon in thier "vehicle" without a license. I suppose once he was off the bike and running.....that could be the basis of the charge, and if he had remained on the bike, no charge like that would have been made???


Since he was "evading" which is at least a class B misdemeanor, he can't carry under MPA, only with a license.

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Re: Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

Postby longhorn86 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 11:54 am

ScottDLS wrote:
E.Marquez wrote:http://www.kcentv.com/news/local/fort-hood-soldier-flees-dps-going-200-mph-on-motorcycle-while-carrying-illegal-gun/356306396

The dumb stunt on the evasion notwithstanding.. Im trying to figure out the "illegal gun"
I will be interested if they charge him for mere possession without a LTC...as that would imply the DA does not believe motorcycle riders have the ability to carry a weapon in thier "vehicle" without a license. I suppose once he was off the bike and running.....that could be the basis of the charge, and if he had remained on the bike, no charge like that would have been made???


Since he was "evading" which is at least a class B misdemeanor, he can't carry under MPA, only with a license.

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Re: Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

Postby uthornsfan » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:23 pm

More importantly that bike is not capable of going 200mph.


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Re: Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

Postby The Wall » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:32 pm

It's amazing to me a soldier can carry a gun illegally anywhere. Should be required they carry at all times. Especially if in uniform. Just my opinion.


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Re: Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

Postby rexmitchell » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:43 pm

I call bull on that guy going 200 mph+. There are some fast bikes out there but it is pretty hard to get over the 200 mph mark.

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Re: Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

Postby JustSomeOldGuy » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:50 pm

uthornsfan wrote:More importantly that bike is not capable of going 200mph.

:iagree:
Average superbike/bulletbike only does up to 165+- (maybe they meant 200 KILOMETERS per hour?)
Average rider isn't capable of operating it at that speed for any distance
Average police car tops out at 130+-
But over a long chase they still caught him (And I didn't see any mention of a helicopter as part of the pursuit)

Somebody is exaggerating...... :totap:
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Re: Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

Postby Jusme » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:53 pm

JustSomeOldGuy wrote:
uthornsfan wrote:More importantly that bike is not capable of going 200mph.

:iagree:
Average superbike/bulletbike only does up to 165+- (maybe they meant 200 KILOMETERS per hour?)
Average rider isn't capable of operating it at that speed for any distance
Average police car tops out at 130+-
But over a long chase they still caught him (And I didn't see any mention of a helicopter as part of the pursuit)

Somebody is exaggerating...... :totap:



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Re: Fort Hood Soldier flees DPS going 200 mph on motorcycle, while illegally carrying gun

Postby Pariah3j » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:55 pm

The Wall wrote:It's amazing to me a soldier can carry a gun illegally anywhere. Should be required they carry at all times. Especially if in uniform. Just my opinion.


My guess is it's due to the Posse Comitatus Act, is probably why this isn't a thing. Which basically prevents the military from performing policing and performing domestic duties/actions. Being given carte blanche to carry is more of a thing given to police/federal agencys.
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