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lol, I love windows and I hate windows. just depends what day it is i guess
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newmenu2 wrote:lol, I love windows and I hate windows. just depends what day it is i guess
That good becasue I bet the feeling is mutual. Just wait for the upgrade that make it all "BETTER"
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Microsoft is the only OS that can get away with selling an OS that crashes only every few weeks as in improvement.
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Would you drive a car with the hood welded shut? That's what you have with MS.

Would you drive a car that crashed into a tree every few weeks?

Thankfully, there's Linux for the rest of us. :biggrinjester:
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I use Windows, in various flavors, and I've never experienced the frustration that I keep hearing about. I don't go to the edge with my computers, but I've built most myself and loaded OS's from scratch, as upgrade, etc. If you reboot (warm boot) your WinOS computer when you're through for the day, you'll clear up memory leaks and other Windows "nasties", and thus have a better experience.

If you don't like Windows and don't need to run Windows versioned software, get Ubuntu, a Linux variant. Very full featured and easy to deal with. I really like the Open Office suite of apps.

Just my experience over the last 30 years or so.
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I skipped Windows Vista, but I keep hearing good feedback from Windows 7 users. Never had a problem with XP. The Mac people experience crashes, but they try not to talk about them in public. Guess what - they can also get viruses. It all depends on what you need, what you have to spend, and how you're going to use it.

I wouldn't recommend even the most user-friendly flavors of Linux to the novice user yet.
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TLE2 wrote: If you reboot (warm boot) your WinOS computer when you're through for the day, you'll clear up memory leaks and other Windows "nasties", and thus have a better experience.
I rebooted my production machine today - a 24" iMac which will be 3 years old in a couple of months - for the first time in about a month... ...and that was just because a software update wanted to reboot the computer. Otherwise, it is as stable as the Rock of Gibraltar.

All 5 of my Macs are that way. They just run, and run, and run, and never slow down or crash. The only time I ever have to deal with Windoze nastiness is when I launch the ugly booger in a virtual machine so I can test something. Then when I'm done, I go wash my hands, 'cause you never know where Windoze has been.

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My wife uses a computer for printing documents, sending email, browsing the web and managing her digital photos. She uses Ubuntu Linux and absolutely loves it. She's had Windows in the past and she prefers Ubuntu over Windows a million times over.
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fickman wrote:I skipped Windows Vista, but I keep hearing good feedback from Windows 7 users. Never had a problem with XP. The Mac people experience crashes, but they try not to talk about them in public. Guess what - they can also get viruses. It all depends on what you need, what you have to spend, and how you're going to use it.

I wouldn't recommend even the most user-friendly flavors of Linux to the novice user yet.
I think a system already installed and operational with Ubuntu is ideal for novices. Those who don't have preconceptions on how things should work usually find Ubuntu and Openoffice the easiest to use. Windows gurus keep running into "it doesn't work the same way as windows" Ubuntu from a novices point of view may be even more intuitive and easier to find help for than Microsoft.
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The Annoyed Man wrote:
TLE2 wrote: If you reboot (warm boot) your WinOS computer when you're through for the day, you'll clear up memory leaks and other Windows "nasties", and thus have a better experience.
I rebooted my production machine today - a 24" iMac which will be 3 years old in a couple of months - for the first time in about a month... ...and that was just because a software update wanted to reboot the computer. Otherwise, it is as stable as the Rock of Gibraltar.

All 5 of my Macs are that way. They just run, and run, and run, and never slow down or crash. The only time I ever have to deal with Windoze nastiness is when I launch the ugly booger in a virtual machine so I can test something. Then when I'm done, I go wash my hands, 'cause you never know where Windoze has been.

"rlol"
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...and I don't have to run a virus software that continually causes problems.
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Russell wrote:
TheArmedFarmer wrote:Would you drive a car with the hood welded shut? That's what you have with MS.

Would you drive a car that crashed into a tree every few weeks?

Thankfully, there's Linux for the rest of us. :biggrinjester:



Would you drive a car where, to add more windshield wiper fluid you had to:

1. Grab your toolkit
2. Press and hold the cruise control, gas pedal, and left turn signal, while simultaneously...
3. Unbolting and removing the engine, left tire, and right brake light

Oh, and if you didn't know how to do all of that, every time you asked someone for help they told you to "RTM" (read the manual). Only problem was, the manual was either 5,000 pages long, written in a different language, or there wasn't one. There was no happy medium.

That's what it felt like working with ubuntu and trying to get divx movies to play correctly without artifacting.

With windows? I installed ffdshow then opened windows media player.


I like and use Linux for servers, but definitely not for desktops. I like my computer to work for me, not the other way around :tiphat:

I just have a desktop of each, connected together via synergy so I only have to use 1 keyboard and mouse for both. I drag the mouse to the right screen, and I'm on my windows desktop. Left screen, Ubuntu.

Windows is good for what windows is good for. Linux is good for what Linux is good for.
I couldn't do (one of) my jobs as a network & systems administrator without both.

Linux is far superior for networking work, troubleshooting, etc. Windows can't even handle 2 gateways, multiple routes, etc, without a huge hassle.
Windows is needed for Active Directory and WDS work. Plain and simple. Cant run a large call center full of Windows Machines, running windows apps, without a proper Active Directory setup.
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thankGod wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
TLE2 wrote: If you reboot (warm boot) your WinOS computer when you're through for the day, you'll clear up memory leaks and other Windows "nasties", and thus have a better experience.
I rebooted my production machine today - a 24" iMac which will be 3 years old in a couple of months - for the first time in about a month... ...and that was just because a software update wanted to reboot the computer. Otherwise, it is as stable as the Rock of Gibraltar.

All 5 of my Macs are that way. They just run, and run, and run, and never slow down or crash. The only time I ever have to deal with Windoze nastiness is when I launch the ugly booger in a virtual machine so I can test something. Then when I'm done, I go wash my hands, 'cause you never know where Windoze has been.

"rlol"
:iagree:

...and I don't have to run a virus software that continually causes problems.
I do run Norton AV and firewall software on my Macs, but it is because I have Windoze installed in a virtual machines on my computers, and it is therefore not as secure without additional protection.
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Russell wrote:That's what it felt like working with ubuntu and trying to get divx movies to play correctly without artifacting.
Those problems came about because of the copyright laws that prevent those software packages from being automatically installed along with the installation. The same problem will come up when you try to get software to play mp3 files.

My wife does neither of these on her computer, so Ubuntu has worked well for her.

As I said, Linux isn't a silver bullet but if your needs are modest then I don't think you can find a better system.
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Russell wrote: Would you drive a car where, to add more windshield wiper fluid you had to:

1. Grab your toolkit
2. Press and hold the cruise control, gas pedal, and left turn signal, while simultaneously...
3. Unbolting and removing the engine, left tire, and right brake light

Oh, and if you didn't know how to do all of that, every time you asked someone for help they told you to "RTM" (read the manual). Only problem was, the manual was either 5,000 pages long, written in a different language, or there wasn't one. There was no happy medium.

That's what it felt like working with ubuntu and trying to get divx movies to play correctly without artifacting.

With windows? I installed ffdshow then opened windows media player.


I like and use Linux for servers, but definitely not for desktops. I like my computer to work for me, not the other way around :tiphat:
I believe one of the issues Ubuntu linux is that almost every one that runs it has had to install it. Almost all of us got our Windows machine preinstalled. What eveyone forgets is the cost factor. I am working on a machine that I built complete with a terabyte harddrive including monitor for $350 bucks. It sets next to a $1400 machine. This machine is a 1.6 GHZ the Vista is 2.4G The $350 machine boots, loads programs and runs faster. the $1400 machine occassionally locks up.

I did install XP in a Virtual box on the $350 Machine, but I really haven't found a need to install any apps on it yet. Ubuntu has this really kewl cube thing that you can flip desktops around with. Yeah, I still use windows a lot, but only cause my wife won't use the high priced machine any more. The cheap machine also has a Microsoft mouse.
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