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Re: Hearing Protection Act of 2017

Postby Lambda Force » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:40 pm

So if a silencer is a gun, what would qualify as an 80% gun that doesn't require a FFL transfer? A plastic 2 liter Coke bottle? A pillow? :mrgreen:

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Re: Hearing Protection Act of 2017

Postby goose » Fri Feb 17, 2017 9:54 am

From Michael McCaul:

"February 17, 2017

Dear Mr. Goose:

Thank you for contacting me regarding H.R. 367, the Hearing Protection Act. I appreciate the benefit of having your views on this matter.

As you may know, H.R. 367 was introduced by Representative Jeff Duncan (SC-03) on January 9, 2017. If enacted into law, this bill would eliminate the $200 transfer tax on firearm silencers. This bill would also remove firearm suppressors from the regulation of the National Firearms Act. Please know, I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. As such, I will review this legislation closely.

This legislation has been referred to the House Judiciary Committee and the House Committee on Ways and Means. While I do not serve on these committees, I will share your concerns with my colleagues who do. Should H.R. 367 come to the House floor for a vote, I will consider it with your views in mind."

A little disappointed that it doesn't say he supports it. Fairly non-committal, IMO. But not hostile towards it either. Fingers crossed.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act of 2017

Postby TexasJohnBoy » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:46 am

House version now has 104 cosponsors. Ted Poe TX-2 and John Abney Culberson TX-7 signed on yesterday.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act of 2017

Postby TreyHouston » Fri Feb 17, 2017 1:29 pm

goose wrote:From Michael McCaul:

"February 17, 2017

Dear Mr. Goose:

Thank you for contacting me regarding H.R. 367, the Hearing Protection Act. I appreciate the benefit of having your views on this matter.

As you may know, H.R. 367 was introduced by Representative Jeff Duncan (SC-03) on January 9, 2017. If enacted into law, this bill would eliminate the $200 transfer tax on firearm silencers. This bill would also remove firearm suppressors from the regulation of the National Firearms Act. Please know, I am a strong supporter of the Second Amendment. As such, I will review this legislation closely.

This legislation has been referred to the House Judiciary Committee and the House Committee on Ways and Means. While I do not serve on these committees, I will share your concerns with my colleagues who do. Should H.R. 367 come to the House floor for a vote, I will consider it with your views in mind."

A little disappointed that it doesn't say he supports it. Fairly non-committal, IMO. But not hostile towards it either. Fingers crossed.


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Re: Hearing Protection Act of 2017

Postby Abraham » Sat Feb 18, 2017 9:29 am

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Postby RoyGBiv » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:13 pm

Hitler has an opinion on the HPA... :mrgreen:

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Re: Hearing Protection Act of 2017

Postby Ruark » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:04 pm

TreyHouston wrote:
Abraham wrote:Why wouldn't foreign mfgs. import lower cost suppressors?

I recall reading something to the effect they sell suppressors in Europe for $150.00 or so.

So, why would domestic mfgs. continue to demand so very, very much more?


:iagree: its a tube and some baffling, nothing overly impressive here!


Exactly. I think if it passes, you'll see a lot of "garage factories," just people making them and selling them online.
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Re: Hearing Protection Act of 2017

Postby bobby » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:28 pm

no I dont think so. I puts them in same class as rifles.... so... ser# part will be????


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Re: Hearing Protection Act of 2017

Postby sheary » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:32 pm

Ruark wrote:
TreyHouston wrote:
Abraham wrote:Why wouldn't foreign mfgs. import lower cost suppressors?

I recall reading something to the effect they sell suppressors in Europe for $150.00 or so.

So, why would domestic mfgs. continue to demand so very, very much more?


:iagree: its a tube and some baffling, nothing overly impressive here!


Exactly. I think if it passes, you'll see a lot of "garage factories," just people making them and selling them online.

They can't do that legally if gun mufflers will still be classified as firearms. They'll need to be made by a Type 6 FFL or other Manufacturer FFL. We'll probably be able to make them for personal use, if normal firearm rules apply, but we can't sell or give homemade firearms to other people.


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Re: Hearing Protection Act of 2017

Postby TreyHouston » Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:36 pm

Ruark wrote:
TreyHouston wrote:
Abraham wrote:Why wouldn't foreign mfgs. import lower cost suppressors?

I recall reading something to the effect they sell suppressors in Europe for $150.00 or so.

So, why would domestic mfgs. continue to demand so very, very much more?


:iagree: its a tube and some baffling, nothing overly impressive here!


Exactly. I think if it passes, you'll see a lot of "garage factories," just people making them and selling them online.


Im already looking at the paperwork!
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Re: Hearing Protection Act of 2017

Postby ninjabread » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:09 pm

If this passes, I wonder if a flash hider threaded for an oil filter would be a firearm or just a part, assuming the flash hider doesn't reduce sound by itself.

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Re: Hearing Protection Act of 2017

Postby kragluver » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:43 pm

I had the honor of being a judge at the Fort Worth regional science Fair this morning. One of the exhibits was by two young ladies evaluating the effect of a can on rifle accuracy... Our future is in good hands :txflag:

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Re: Hearing Protection Act of 2017

Postby ArmedAndPolite » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:45 pm

I wonder what are the odds this bill passing is? I have form 4s ready, fingerprints and everything. Heck, if something ends up happening in the next 6 months, might as well wait and save the tax money.
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