Wreck kills local church goers

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Re: Wreck kills local church goers

Postby SewTexas » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:38 am

bblhd672 wrote:
SewTexas wrote:that's irresponsible writing. think about your wife's, purse and what could be written about her after an accident, your mother's. Is that what you would want?
He admitted to taking the Ambien and Lexapro. As far as I know that's all. So yeh, he would have been pretty much asleep, and should be charged with some sort of DUI or something. But I haven't read anywhere that tox results have come back or that he had taken anything else or smoked the pot that day. None of the cops said, "they were still smoking" or "they were warm" or whatever....
it's obvious the kid has a problem and needs help. And yes, I hope he goes to prison for a long time. But, I also would like to hold the media to the truth.


:headscratch You're defending the indefensible. Straw man argument all you want, but this "kid" (not, he's 20 years old and an adult) killed 13 people with his deliberate actions. Whether he had a joint lit and smoking it at the time of the crash in immaterial.
You are correct, tox results have not been made public, but I don't see how it's relevant based upon the evidence recovered at the scene and his own admissions of the pills he had taken. Texting while driving was the least of his offenses.



I'm not defending him at all. I don't think anything I said was a defense. I simply pointed out the facts. Yes, there were pills, "on the seat". We don't know where those pills came from. Had he just come from Walgreens picking up meds for his mother? Had he been at a pill party the night before? We don't know! He admitted to taking to pills and texting, if he admitted that, he would have said if there were more.
I'd like for him to go to prison for a long time. I don't think he will though. A good defense lawyer will keep him out, easily.
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Re: Wreck kills local church goers

Postby Jusme » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:10 am

SewTexas wrote:
Jusme wrote:
WildBill wrote:
The driver of the truck, 20-year-old Jack Dillon Young, was recorded swerving in and out of his lane March 29 before the bus crash.
Young said he consumed the prescription medications clonazepam, Ambien and Lexapro and was distracted by his cellphone before the
crash, according to a Texas Department of Public Safety affidavit for a search warrant obtained by KENS-TV.

Several medications were found in the front seat of Young’s pickup, including 29 doses of the sedative zolpidem in a bottle,
30 pills of the antidepressant escitalopram and empty bottles of the anti-anxiety drug clonazepam and prazosin, a drug to treat
high blood pressure, investigator Scott Hewitt stated, according to KENS-TV. Several marijuana cigarettes, most of them partially
smoked, were reportedly also found in the pickup's center console.
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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2 ... -killed-13



He was almost comatose then. I hope they charge him with 13 counts of intoxication manslaughter.



that's irresponsible writing. think about your wife's, purse and what could be written about her after an accident, your mother's. Is that what you would want?
He admitted to taking the Ambien and Lexapro. As far as I know that's all. So yeh, he would have been pretty much asleep, and should be charged with some sort of DUI or something. But I haven't read anywhere that tox results have come back or that he had taken anything else or smoked the pot that day. None of the cops said, "they were still smoking" or "they were warm" or whatever....
it's obvious the kid has a problem and needs help. And yes, I hope he goes to prison for a long time. But, I also would like to hold the media to the truth.



SewTexas,
I would like to hold the media to the truth also, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. They didn't say that he ingested all of the drugs listed, but even with the ones he admitted to taking, he had no business behind the wheel. I have no problem with the contents of my truck being listed on a police report, even if I am involved in an accident, nor would my wife. Maybe we are fortunate that we don't have to take a lot of medications, and none that render us incapable of operating a vehicle safely. If we are prescribed anything like that we stay home. With the prescription drugs listed, along with the marijuana, I would say this "kid" has a definite drug problem. If all of the prescription drugs are in his name, his doctor needs to be investigated. JMHO
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Re: Wreck kills local church goers

Postby WildBill » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:52 am

SewTexas wrote:
Jusme wrote:
WildBill wrote:
The driver of the truck, 20-year-old Jack Dillon Young, was recorded swerving in and out of his lane March 29 before the bus crash.
Young said he consumed the prescription medications clonazepam, Ambien and Lexapro and was distracted by his cellphone before the
crash, according to a Texas Department of Public Safety affidavit for a search warrant obtained by KENS-TV.

Several medications were found in the front seat of Young’s pickup, including 29 doses of the sedative zolpidem in a bottle,
30 pills of the antidepressant escitalopram and empty bottles of the anti-anxiety drug clonazepam and prazosin, a drug to treat
high blood pressure, investigator Scott Hewitt stated, according to KENS-TV. Several marijuana cigarettes, most of them partially
smoked, were reportedly also found in the pickup's center console.
:banghead:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2 ... -killed-13



He was almost comatose then. I hope they charge him with 13 counts of intoxication manslaughter.



that's irresponsible writing. think about your wife's, purse and what could be written about her after an accident, your mother's. Is that what you would want?
He admitted to taking the Ambien and Lexapro. As far as I know that's all. So yeh, he would have been pretty much asleep, and should be charged with some sort of DUI or something. But I haven't read anywhere that tox results have come back or that he had taken anything else or smoked the pot that day. None of the cops said, "they were still smoking" or "they were warm" or whatever....
it's obvious the kid has a problem and needs help. And yes, I hope he goes to prison for a long time. But, I also would like to hold the media to the truth.

The article stated that the marijuana and other drugs were found after a search warrant was obtained and that they were documented on a police report.
I am not positive, but it would probably be public record.
I don't know if I would call that irresponsible. If I were a reporter I would probably write about it.
It's not the same as describing the contents or a purse after an accident unless the accident involved committing a crime.
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Re: Wreck kills local church goers

Postby SewTexas » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:05 pm

WildBill wrote:
SewTexas wrote:
Jusme wrote:
WildBill wrote:
The driver of the truck, 20-year-old Jack Dillon Young, was recorded swerving in and out of his lane March 29 before the bus crash.
Young said he consumed the prescription medications clonazepam, Ambien and Lexapro and was distracted by his cellphone before the
crash, according to a Texas Department of Public Safety affidavit for a search warrant obtained by KENS-TV.

Several medications were found in the front seat of Young’s pickup, including 29 doses of the sedative zolpidem in a bottle,
30 pills of the antidepressant escitalopram and empty bottles of the anti-anxiety drug clonazepam and prazosin, a drug to treat
high blood pressure, investigator Scott Hewitt stated, according to KENS-TV. Several marijuana cigarettes, most of them partially
smoked, were reportedly also found in the pickup's center console.
:banghead:

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/texas/2 ... -killed-13



He was almost comatose then. I hope they charge him with 13 counts of intoxication manslaughter.



that's irresponsible writing. think about your wife's, purse and what could be written about her after an accident, your mother's. Is that what you would want?
He admitted to taking the Ambien and Lexapro. As far as I know that's all. So yeh, he would have been pretty much asleep, and should be charged with some sort of DUI or something. But I haven't read anywhere that tox results have come back or that he had taken anything else or smoked the pot that day. None of the cops said, "they were still smoking" or "they were warm" or whatever....
it's obvious the kid has a problem and needs help. And yes, I hope he goes to prison for a long time. But, I also would like to hold the media to the truth.

The article stated that the marijuana and other drugs were found after a search warrant was obtained and that they were documented on a police report.
I am not positive, but it would probably be public record.
I don't know if I would call that irresponsible. If I were a reporter I would probably write about it.
It's not the same as describing the contents or a purse after an accident unless the accident involved committing a crime.


We don't know where the pill bottles were. they could have been in some sort of a duffle bag, backpack, brown paper bag or rolling around on the floor of the car, again, we're getting half of a story, maybe only a third....we don't know. We're getting a little bit of a half of a story, if they can't tell us everything, then tell nothing and wait. I'm not sure that evidence is public record, I didn't think so, I think some police officer reported this.
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Re: Wreck kills local church goers

Postby bblhd672 » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:15 pm

SewTexas wrote:We don't know where the pill bottles were. they could have been in some sort of a duffle bag, backpack, brown paper bag or rolling around on the floor of the car, again, we're getting half of a story, maybe only a third....we don't know. We're getting a little bit of a half of a story, if they can't tell us everything, then tell nothing and wait. I'm not sure that evidence is public record, I didn't think so, I think some police officer reported this.


At his point, what difference does it make? Thirteen innocent people are dead at the hands of a severely impaired adult behind the wheel of a truck. Where the prescription drug bottles were located in the truck's front seat is of little concern.
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Re: Wreck kills local church goers

Postby OlBill » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:44 pm

So Governor Abbott signed the texting bill today.


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