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Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:51 am
by equin
https://texasrunandgun.org/2018-lone-st ... n-and-gun/

Anyone on here registered for this? It’s scheduled for Feb 24 and 25 near Cresson, southwest of Ft. Worth. Supposed to be 5 to 7 miles long, with some obstacles thrown in, but walking is allowed. I just signed up for it. It’ll be my first one.

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:22 pm
by flechero
Looks fun, and i wish I hadn't quit running 2 years ago!

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:52 pm
by ammoboy2
I registered for the Cresson event and have run the Waco Tactical Fitness (since the abbr does not pass muster)and Zombie Destruction a couple of times.

I would recommend practicing some non-conventional shooting positions and conditions, they tend to turn-up in the biathlons. Knowing your ranging and cross wind hold overs will be useful. We have had some 20 mph crosswinds on 400 yd targets before.

Make sure you can carry all your equipment and ammo loadout and be able to run with it for the extended period. It is tougher than you think when you have about 25-35 lbs of mags, ammo, pistol, rifle, and water.

Good Luck it is alot of fun.

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 6:56 pm
by equin
Thanks for the excellent advice, Ammoboy2. I guess I need to figure out how to determine range and practice shooting from different positions. I don't have much in the way of gear, either, and am wondering if I can get by with lugging mags, extra ammo and a couple water bottles in a backpack.

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:40 pm
by ammoboy2
You can use a backpack, I use a camelbak to carry spare ammo to refill mags, but it makes it tough to get a new mag to finish a stage. The Waco event were 180 sec max so time digging in a backpack makes it difficult to complete the stage. Check out the photos from the 1st Waco event or the other photos from Lone Star event page. You will see a wide variety of loadouts from warbelts to vests, or old Vietnam era Alice web gear.

https://www.wtfbiathlon.com/photos

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:55 am
by equin
Thanks again, Ammoboy2. Those photos make it look like a whole lot of fun. So was each stage at Waco 3 minute max? Or did it vary by stage? Do folks reload their mags while heading to the next stage?

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:24 am
by ammoboy2
Last time I ran it all the stages were 180 sec, it is detailed in their course of fire on the website. The Lonestar has not defined it yet. The Waco TF, have generally topped off mags while running/moving between stages, sometimes during a wait.

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:47 am
by oljames3
ammoboy2 wrote:You can use a backpack, I use a camelbak to carry spare ammo to refill mags, but it makes it tough to get a new mag to finish a stage. The Waco event were 180 sec max so time digging in a backpack makes it difficult to complete the stage. Check out the photos from the 1st Waco event or the other photos from Lone Star event page. You will see a wide variety of loadouts from warbelts to vests, or old Vietnam era Alice web gear.

https://www.wtfbiathlon.com/photos
Reminds me of Ft Leonard Wood, MO, circa 1973. Y'all have fun!

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:55 am
by equin
ammoboy2 wrote:Last time I ran it all the stages were 180 sec, it is detailed in their course of fire on the website. The Lonestar has not defined it yet. The Waco TF, have generally topped off mags while running/moving between stages, sometimes during a wait.
Sorry for all the dumb questions and thanks again, Ammoboy2.

Which heat did you sign up for? I whimped out and chose an early morning heat with the walking option, but I’m hoping I’ll be able to at least jog most of the way. I’m not a runner by any means, but so far I’ve been able to work my way up to a slow 4 mile jog with about 20 lbs of canned food stuffed in my backpack.

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:59 am
by equin
oljames3 wrote:
ammoboy2 wrote:You can use a backpack, I use a camelbak to carry spare ammo to refill mags, but it makes it tough to get a new mag to finish a stage. The Waco event were 180 sec max so time digging in a backpack makes it difficult to complete the stage. Check out the photos from the 1st Waco event or the other photos from Lone Star event page. You will see a wide variety of loadouts from warbelts to vests, or old Vietnam era Alice web gear.

https://www.wtfbiathlon.com/photos
Reminds me of Ft Leonard Wood, MO, circa 1973. Y'all have fun!
Thanks for your service! I would guess both active and retired military would easily dominate and find these types of competitions to be relatively easy compared to all the training they’ve endured.

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:48 pm
by ammoboy2
I am on the 2 pm heat. I just did some regular jogging of about 3.5 miles so you are doing better than I was since I did not have a pack. I plan to conduct jogging with weights till the event.

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:14 pm
by ammoboy2
Well how was it everyone that signed up? I "ran" at 1:30 which was post ran but not post mud.

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:33 pm
by equin
Unfortunately, I had to bow out due to illness. My heat was the early morning one at 8 am, so it would’ve been pre-rain I think. How was it? Any photos? I’m still very much intetested in doing my first one.

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:26 pm
by SQLGeek
I've just recently learned of these events and they're something I definitely want to start working toward. These would be a great fitness training goal (ie a purpose for training beyond general fitnesss) AND an excuse to purpose build-out an AR beyond general plinking or defense.

I had not heard of this particular event before so it's on my list. :tiphat:

Re: Lonestar Armory Run and Gun (Biathlon)

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:46 pm
by ammoboy2
The saturday morning runners, it did not matter when you started you got rained on. I started at 1:35 and finished at 17:11 of that time they subtract wait and shoot time which was 135 minutes. I took an hour and a half to "run it". There were alot of up and down hills. So the distance was effectively increased and associated work out.

The people that ran it sunday had it easy, less mud, warmer, and sunny. I at least did not get rained on, but I have done that before. It is a good test of your character and shows you how difficult everything becomes with percip.