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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby SSwt00SS » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:05 am

Ran across this signage at a Softball Complex in Plano. I took this so that myself and others can continue to be well informed. My question is: what section are we looking for to see if CHL'ers can carry at this complex? I have not come across it yet, or perhaps I've missed it.

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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby CleverNickname » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:24 am

SSwt00SS wrote:Ran across this signage at a Softball Complex in Plano. I took this so that myself and others can continue to be well informed. My question is: what section are we looking for to see if CHL'ers can carry at this complex? I have not come across it yet, or perhaps I've missed it.

Comment is the (4th) line item from the bottom, in the left hand column.

1) That's not a 30.06 sign, so it doesn't apply to CHL licensees.
2) The sign itself says it doesn't apply to licensees.
3) A city park is government-owned property, so if a 30.06 sign was posted, it would be invalid anyways.

This isn't complicated.


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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby JKTex » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:37 am

CleverNickname wrote:
SSwt00SS wrote:Ran across this signage at a Softball Complex in Plano. I took this so that myself and others can continue to be well informed. My question is: what section are we looking for to see if CHL'ers can carry at this complex? I have not come across it yet, or perhaps I've missed it.

Comment is the (4th) line item from the bottom, in the left hand column.

1) That's not a 30.06 sign, so it doesn't apply to CHL licensees.
2) The sign itself says it doesn't apply to licensees.
3) A city park is government-owned property, so if a 30.06 sign was posted, it would be invalid anyways.

This isn't complicated.


Ditto. At best it may be overly simplified and redundant. Why are you looking for a section to read and what is it supposed to do?

The line you reference simply (over simply) states they want no weapons of any kind, excluding anyone covered under the authority of law.


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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby SSwt00SS » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:30 pm

It was in regards to it being a city/government owned property. These signs are located within the complex itself, well after point of entry and no 30.06 seen. Thanks for the replies.


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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby MeMelYup » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:05 pm

SSwt00SS wrote:Ran across this signage at a Softball Complex in Plano. I took this so that myself and others can continue to be well informed. My question is: what section are we looking for to see if CHL'ers can carry at this complex? I have not come across it yet, or perhaps I've missed it.

Comment is the (4th) line item from the bottom, in the left hand column.

Doesn't apply to a person with a CHL. This sign applies to OCT and OCTC that don't have a CHL.


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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby JKTex » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:23 pm

SSwt00SS wrote:It was in regards to it being a city/government owned property. These signs are located within the complex itself, well after point of entry and no 30.06 seen. Thanks for the replies.


The property ownership doesn't make any difference but the sign is irrelevant and also states it's not intended to include CHL.


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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby JKTex » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:26 pm

MeMelYup wrote:
SSwt00SS wrote:Ran across this signage at a Softball Complex in Plano. I took this so that myself and others can continue to be well informed. My question is: what section are we looking for to see if CHL'ers can carry at this complex? I have not come across it yet, or perhaps I've missed it.

Comment is the (4th) line item from the bottom, in the left hand column.

Doesn't apply to a person with a CHL. This sign applies to OCT and OCTC that don't have a CHL.


:headscratch I'm not sure how you get that it applies to 2 specific groups, it's clear in it's simple message that it's intent (legal or not) is to keep "weapons" off the property except as noted.

We're beating a dead horse though..... :txflag:


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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby Richbirdhunter » Tue Jun 09, 2015 6:33 am

I put my son in a Montessori school for tutoring over the summer, and they have a gun free zone sign at the front door is that legal?
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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby nightmare69 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:50 am

Richbirdhunter wrote:I put my son in a Montessori school for tutoring over the summer, and they have a gun free zone sign at the front door is that legal?


Schools don't have to be posted as they are already off limits to CHL.
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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby LDB415 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:14 am

Richbirdhunter wrote:I put my son in a Montessori school for tutoring over the summer, and they have a gun free zone sign at the front door is that legal?


That's just for the benefit of the bad guys to reinforce to them that nobody will be equipped to confront them.
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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby CleverNickname » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:32 am

JKTex wrote:
MeMelYup wrote:
SSwt00SS wrote:Ran across this signage at a Softball Complex in Plano. I took this so that myself and others can continue to be well informed. My question is: what section are we looking for to see if CHL'ers can carry at this complex? I have not come across it yet, or perhaps I've missed it.

Comment is the (4th) line item from the bottom, in the left hand column.

Doesn't apply to a person with a CHL. This sign applies to OCT and OCTC that don't have a CHL.


:headscratch I'm not sure how you get that it applies to 2 specific groups, it's clear in it's simple message that it's intent (legal or not) is to keep "weapons" off the property except as noted.

We're beating a dead horse though..... :txflag:

It applies to them (and anyone else who carries long guns in public), because local governments are not restricted under state law from banning long gun carry on their property.


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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby JKTex » Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:45 am

CleverNickname wrote:
JKTex wrote:
MeMelYup wrote:
SSwt00SS wrote:Ran across this signage at a Softball Complex in Plano. I took this so that myself and others can continue to be well informed. My question is: what section are we looking for to see if CHL'ers can carry at this complex? I have not come across it yet, or perhaps I've missed it.

Comment is the (4th) line item from the bottom, in the left hand column.

Doesn't apply to a person with a CHL. This sign applies to OCT and OCTC that don't have a CHL.


:headscratch I'm not sure how you get that it applies to 2 specific groups, it's clear in it's simple message that it's intent (legal or not) is to keep "weapons" off the property except as noted.

We're beating a dead horse though..... :txflag:

It applies to them (and anyone else who carries long guns in public), because local governments are not restricted under state law from banning long gun carry on their property.



What I meant was how you arrived at those 2 very specific groups and that specific item, long guns.

The intent of the sign is to apply to a very wide, nearly unlimited range of people, and nearly as long of a list of items considered weapons in general, very general.


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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby MeMelYup » Tue Jun 09, 2015 11:55 am

JKTex wrote:
CleverNickname wrote:
JKTex wrote:
MeMelYup wrote:
SSwt00SS wrote:Ran across this signage at a Softball Complex in Plano. I took this so that myself and others can continue to be well informed. My question is: what section are we looking for to see if CHL'ers can carry at this complex? I have not come across it yet, or perhaps I've missed it.

Comment is the (4th) line item from the bottom, in the left hand column.

Doesn't apply to a person with a CHL. This sign applies to OCT and OCTC that don't have a CHL.


:headscratch I'm not sure how you get that it applies to 2 specific groups, it's clear in it's simple message that it's intent (legal or not) is to keep "weapons" off the property except as noted.

We're beating a dead horse though..... :txflag:

It applies to them (and anyone else who carries long guns in public), because local governments are not restricted under state law from banning long gun carry on their property.



What I meant was how you arrived at those 2 very specific groups and that specific item, long guns.

The intent of the sign is to apply to a very wide, nearly unlimited range of people, and nearly as long of a list of items considered weapons in general, very general.

It's sarcasm. What two groups are always in the news for carrying long firearms into places under the guise of familiarizing the public with firearms.

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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby John Galt » Thu Jul 02, 2015 5:07 pm

LDB415 wrote:
Richbirdhunter wrote:I put my son in a Montessori school for tutoring over the summer, and they have a gun free zone sign at the front door is that legal?


That's just for the benefit of the bad guys to reinforce to them that nobody will be equipped to confront them.

Exactly! It tells them that they will not have any opposition.

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Re: Signs for the CHLer

Postby C-dub » Thu Jul 02, 2015 8:13 pm

What is the Texas Concealed Weapons Act anyway?
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