Texas House passes 12 new Gun Bills on 'Gun Day'

[DaveT]

Now we wait to see what the Senate does with these...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... s/2135881/

[remington79]

I have some confusion in the article where it says one of the bills that didn't pass allowed you to use your CHL as an ID. I never had an issue using it as an ID. It is government issued ID. I had no problem using it for my ID to get my marriage license.

[jmra]

A CHL is a state issued license but it is not a state recognized form of Identification. Many institutions will accept it as ID but only because they don't know any better or don't care.

[flechero]

I have some confusion in the article where it says one of the bills that didn't pass allowed you to use your CHL as an ID. I never had an issue using it as an ID. It is government issued ID. I had no problem using it for my ID to get my marriage license.

I've actually asked the ID question at a bank and here is the response I got:

Although it's not an "official form of ID" most places realize that it is better than a DL as it takes more to get one and I have yet to hear of a fake CHL. Ever heard of a fake ID or DL?

[TLE2]

The feds at the airport won't accept a CHL they require your drivers license.

I told the guy, that my CHL required (besides training) fingerprints, state and local background checks, etc.
To get a driver's license you have to show up.

He smiled and said "Yes, but it's the rule.

[RX8er]

A CHL is a state issued license but it is not a state recognized form of Identification. Many institutions will accept it as ID but only because they don't know any better or don't care.

The feds at the airport won't accept a CHL they require your drivers license. I told the guy, that my CHL required (besides training) fingerprints, state and local background checks, etc.
To get a driver's license you have to show up.

He smiled and said "Yes, but it's the rule.

I can't get TSA to use it as an id either. I try every time I fly in and out of Love Field and DFW. I get more success being away froim Texas though. the last time I was in STL, I used it, she did a double take but let me proceed. But, if I had a Costco card, I would be all set to fly.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/0 ... -security/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[chasfm11]

The feds at the airport won't accept a CHL they require your drivers license.

I told the guy, that my CHL required (besides training) fingerprints, state and local background checks, etc.
To get a driver's license you have to show up.

He smiled and said "Yes, but it's the rule.

Remember: These are the same Feds that have rules about carrying in Post Offices and on Corps of Engineer's controlled property.

[WinoVeritas]

Seems kinda silly the CHL is not accepted as official ID since it has you TDL no. on it - or at least mine does.

[jmra]

Seems kinda silly the CHL is not accepted as official ID since it has you TDL no. on it - or at least mine does.

Silly? We are talking about the government here. Did you expect they would base decisions on rational thought?

[Wes]

I have used it to fly from dfw and love field, as has my girlfriend. Also accepted at our destinations in louisville and miami, never a problem one.

As for the gun day thing, here is the thread for that - http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=65695" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[longtooth]

I can change the title & this one can continue. I think it a good one.

[VMI77]

Note, regarding the article, it is those claiming Federal supremacy that are violating the Constitution, not Texas when it says the Feds can't enforce an unconstitutional law. The supremacy clause says that for a federal law to be supreme it must also be constitutional, and the Constitution grants no authority to the Federal Government to ban guns or restrict the type of weapons that may be possessed --quite the opposite, as it prohibits infringement. The individual states have that right, not the Feds.

[recaffeination]

Now we wait to see what the Senate does with these...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... s/2135881/

There is plenty of time if they care and never enough if they don't.

I'm writing to my state senator to ask the senate to opt out of the "opt out" dilution of civil rights.

[Rrash]

The feds at the airport won't accept a CHL they require your drivers license.

I told the guy, that my CHL required (besides training) fingerprints, state and local background checks, etc.
To get a driver's license you have to show up.

He smiled and said "Yes, but it's the rule.

"I should be inclined to think freedom is less necessary in great things than little ones. . . . Subjection in minor affairs . . .does not drive men to resistance, but it crosses them at every turn, till they are led to surrender the exercise of their own will. Thus their spirit is gradually broken and their character enervated. . . ."

French philosopher Alexis de Tocqueville

[RX8er]

I have used it to fly from dfw and love field, as has my girlfriend. Also accepted at our destinations in louisville and miami, never a problem one.

As for the gun day thing, here is the thread for that - http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=65695" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You must be one of the lucky ones. Here is the TSA's official response:

The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) requires adult passengers (18 years of age and older) to show a U.S. Federal or State-issued photo identification (ID) to be allowed through the security checkpoint and onto their flight.

Currently, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and TSA are working with the States and Congress on driver s license security under the REAL ID program. Although IDs do not need to be REAL ID compliant, Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) always have the option of requesting a second form of ID.

Acceptable IDs include:

• Driver’s Licenses or Other State Photo Identity Cards Issued by Department of Motor Vehicles or equivalent State or U.S. Territory Government office for the sole purpose of identification, and not for evidence of employment status, student status, weapons permit, or other status.
• U.S. Passport
• U.S. Passport Card
• DHS Trusted Traveler Cards (NEXUS, SENTRI, FAST, and Global Entry)
• U.S. Military ID (active duty or retired military and their dependents, and DOD civilians)
• Permanent Resident Card
• Border Crossing Card
• DHS-Designated Enhanced Driver s License
• A Native American Tribal Photo ID
• An Airline or Airport-issued ID (if issued under a TSA-approved security plan)
• A Foreign Government-issued Passport
• Canadian Provincial Driver s License or Indian and Northern Affairs Canada (INAC) Card
• Transportation Worker Identification Credential (TWIC)

Non-U.S. Canadian citizens are not required to carry their passports if they have documents issued by the U.S. government, such as Permanent Resident Cards. Those without U.S. Government-issued documents should carry their passports when visiting the United States.

We understand passengers occasionally arrive at the airport without an ID, due to lost items or inadvertently leaving them at home. Not having an ID does not necessarily mean a passenger will not be allowed to fly. If travelers are willing to provide additional information, TSA has other means of substantiating a passenger’s identity, such as using publicly available databases.
Under this process, TSA may ask the passenger to complete a Certification of Identity form, which requests the passenger’s name and current address, and may ask additional questions of the passenger to confirm his or her identity. If TSA is able to confirm the passenger’s identity, the passenger will be cleared to enter the screening checkpoint; however, the individual may be subject to additional screening. If we are unable to confirm a passenger’s identity, or a passenger refuses to provide ID or cooperate in the ID verification process, TSA will deny the passenger entry into the security checkpoint. We recommend that travelers arrive at least 2 hours in advance of their flight time to allow ample time for security screening and boarding of aircraft.

For more information about ID requirements, please visit TSA’s Web site at http://www.tsa.gov" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.


We hope this information is helpful.

TSA Contact Center

NOTICE: The information contained in this message and any attachments is privileged and confidential and therefore protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent who is responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Senture does not accept liability for changes to this message after it was sent. The views expressed in this e-mail do not necessarily reflect the views of the company. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying via e-mail to this message and deleting this information from your computer.