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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby mojo84 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:15 pm

Looks like Academy is a no go for some of you folks that take a hard line approach. They appear to be more anti-gun than HEB. <sarcasm>

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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby Take Down Sicko » Fri Apr 28, 2017 6:42 pm

mojo84 wrote:
Take Down Sicko wrote:The HEB near me has 30.06 and 30/07 signs. I sent them an email stating my disapproval and that i wouldnt be spending my money there. Never got a reply. That was a year ago.


I've been to a lot of HEB's and have never seen a 30.06 sign. At which one have you seen one?




This was at the HEB on Hwy 6 south @ Bellaire. Its been over a year since i saw it.

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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby JustSomeOldGuy » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:03 am

Take Down Sicko wrote:
mojo84 wrote:
Take Down Sicko wrote:The HEB near me has 30.06 and 30/07 signs. I sent them an email stating my disapproval and that i wouldnt be spending my money there. Never got a reply. That was a year ago.


I've been to a lot of HEB's and have never seen a 30.06 sign. At which one have you seen one?




This was at the HEB on Hwy 6 south @ Bellaire. Its been over a year since i saw it.


https://www.texas3006.com/view.php?id=2817 shows it as 30.07 only as of 1-3-2016
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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby thetexan » Wed May 31, 2017 9:15 am

Target has the same sign.

What the sign does signify is that the proprietor has so little regard for the law that they can not even take the time to find out what the proper signage is necessary to properly convey their message to the public. If one is lawfully carrying then that sign means nothing. If they are illegally carrying, then that sign means nothing.

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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby twomillenium » Wed May 31, 2017 10:03 am

thetexan wrote:Target has the same sign.

What the sign does signify is that the proprietor has so little regard for the law that they can not even take the time to find out what the proper signage is necessary to properly convey their message to the public. If one is lawfully carrying then that sign means nothing. If they are illegally carrying, then that sign means nothing.

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Actually that sign is required by the TABC to be posted for all alcohol retailers that sell for off-premise consumption. That is according to the TABC website. So it has nothing to do with the regard of the proprietor at that location. :tiphat:
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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby parabelum » Wed May 31, 2017 10:39 am

locke_n_load wrote:Just an FYI, Kroger is one of the biggest grocers that respect our rights.
They have not ever given in to mom's demand nonsense, and I have never seen a no-guns sign posted at their store, of any type, that wasn't required by law, nor asked for my LTC when carrying openly in any of their stores.

I shop there almost exclusively for groceries because of those reasons.


+1. :iagree:

Kroger has been very supportive of our 2A rights. I don't OC often however, few times I did in Kroger the staff were polite as always. Folks I know say the same.

Great place, definitely an upgrade from HEB, at least where I live.


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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby thetexan » Wed May 31, 2017 10:46 am

twomillenium wrote:
thetexan wrote:Target has the same sign.

What the sign does signify is that the proprietor has so little regard for the law that they can not even take the time to find out what the proper signage is necessary to properly convey their message to the public. If one is lawfully carrying then that sign means nothing. If they are illegally carrying, then that sign means nothing.

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Actually that sign is required by the TABC to be posted for all alcohol retailers that sell for off-premise consumption. That is according to the TABC website. So it has nothing to do with the regard of the proprietor at that location. :tiphat:


I believe that sign is not correct, certainly not current. But maybe it can still be used. That is a good research project. I'll get back to you on that.

And maybe the owner posted it or maybe the TABC posted it. If the owner posted it AND it is out of date then the owner needs to do his homework. If it is completely out of the owner's hands....

then I'd agree with you.

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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby RSX11 » Wed May 31, 2017 11:01 am

My local grocery store is a Foodarama. They seem a little confused about what signs they need. At the door they have a TABC blue sign (they don't serve alcohol on premises), a legit sized and worded 30.07, and a real big gunbuster style sign featuring a detailed picture of a Colt revolver. Since I don't carry a revolver I know that doesn't refer to me. posting.php?mode=reply&f=7&t=88734#


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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby twomillenium » Wed May 31, 2017 12:10 pm

RSX11 wrote:My local grocery store is a Foodarama. They seem a little confused about what signs they need. At the door they have a TABC blue sign (they don't serve alcohol on premises), a legit sized and worded 30.07, and a real big gunbuster style sign featuring a detailed picture of a Colt revolver. Since I don't carry a revolver I know that doesn't refer to me. http://texaschlforum.com/posting.php?mo ... 7&t=88734#

HUH? Whether or not it has any gunbuster style sign on it or not, does not effect the validity of the sign. It is the wording and min. size and block lettering that you need to pay attention too.
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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby twomillenium » Wed May 31, 2017 12:21 pm

thetexan wrote:
twomillenium wrote:
thetexan wrote:Target has the same sign.

What the sign does signify is that the proprietor has so little regard for the law that they can not even take the time to find out what the proper signage is necessary to properly convey their message to the public. If one is lawfully carrying then that sign means nothing. If they are illegally carrying, then that sign means nothing.

tex

Actually that sign is required by the TABC to be posted for all alcohol retailers that sell for off-premise consumption. That is according to the TABC website. So it has nothing to do with the regard of the proprietor at that location. :tiphat:


I believe that sign is not correct, certainly not current. But maybe it can still be used. That is a good research project. I'll get back to you on that.

And maybe the owner posted it or maybe the TABC posted it. If the owner posted it AND it is out of date then the owner needs to do his homework. If it is completely out of the owner's hands....

then I'd agree with you.

tex


I do not think there is an update requirement for TABC signs as stringent as the .06 or .07 signs (which are entirely posted or not posted at proprietors discretion).
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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby ScottDLS » Wed May 31, 2017 12:33 pm

TABC was apparently providing that sign language after some open carry rifle demonstrations, and shortly after OC passed. The wording of the sign is factually incorrect, but perhaps it meets the TABC requirements for a BLUE sign. I've seen it a Target along with the regular TABC blue sign. It's essentially irrelevant as well as being incorrect in its statement of the law. I don't think it indicated anything other than the store manager got the sign or language from TABC and thought they were supposed to post it.
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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby Keith B » Wed May 31, 2017 2:52 pm

thetexan wrote:
twomillenium wrote:
thetexan wrote:Target has the same sign.

What the sign does signify is that the proprietor has so little regard for the law that they can not even take the time to find out what the proper signage is necessary to properly convey their message to the public. If one is lawfully carrying then that sign means nothing. If they are illegally carrying, then that sign means nothing.

tex

Actually that sign is required by the TABC to be posted for all alcohol retailers that sell for off-premise consumption. That is according to the TABC website. So it has nothing to do with the regard of the proprietor at that location. :tiphat:


I believe that sign is not correct, certainly not current. But maybe it can still be used. That is a good research project. I'll get back to you on that.

And maybe the owner posted it or maybe the TABC posted it. If the owner posted it AND it is out of date then the owner needs to do his homework. If it is completely out of the owner's hands....

then I'd agree with you.

tex


TABC does not post signs. They require the business to post one of two signs. They have to post either BLUE 'Unlicensed possession' sign meaning they sell alcohol for off-premise consumption, OR they make less that 51% of their revenue from the sale for on-premise consumption, or a RED 51% sign meaning they make more than 51% from on-premise consumption sales. The BLUE sign does not prohibit an LTC from carrying, hence the wording 'Unlicensed possession'. The RED sign is off-limits for LTC's by law.
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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby RSX11 » Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:08 pm

HUH? Whether or not it has any gunbuster style sign on it or not, does not effect the validity of the sign. It is the wording and min. size and block lettering that you need to pay attention too.


Ah yes, I'm fully aware. I was pointing out their funny signage, and essaying a jape. Unfortunately the reply editor didn't properly display the smiley face in my post, but printed an url instead...

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Re: Krogers signage question

Postby C-dub » Thu Jun 01, 2017 2:00 pm

I think some folks are getting this sign
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with this sign
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Or maybe I'm missing something.
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