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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby MeMelYup » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:42 pm

John Galt wrote:I am all for campus carry, but also think that some training is a good thing.

It should be taught in school. If it were taught in school it would reduce the amount of child firearm accidents.

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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby TexasTornado » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:46 pm

MeMelYup wrote:
John Galt wrote:I am all for campus carry, but also think that some training is a good thing.

It should be taught in school. If it were taught in school it would reduce the amount of child firearm accidents.


Having been in a classroom with recent high school graduates over the last 2.5 years, I find putting firearms in their hands slightly terrifying. Perhaps we should start by teaching them things like respect for authority and common sense?
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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby MeMelYup » Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:52 pm

TexasTornado wrote:
MeMelYup wrote:
John Galt wrote:I am all for campus carry, but also think that some training is a good thing.

It should be taught in school. If it were taught in school it would reduce the amount of child firearm accidents.


Having been in a classroom with recent high school graduates over the last 2.5 years, I find putting firearms in their hands slightly terrifying. Perhaps we should start by teaching them things like respect for authority and common sense?

Not if you started them out with air soft and in the second grade. Preschool, kindergarten and first grade get Eddie Eagle.

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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby TexasTornado » Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:00 pm

MeMelYup wrote:
TexasTornado wrote:
MeMelYup wrote:
John Galt wrote:I am all for campus carry, but also think that some training is a good thing.

It should be taught in school. If it were taught in school it would reduce the amount of child firearm accidents.


Having been in a classroom with recent high school graduates over the last 2.5 years, I find putting firearms in their hands slightly terrifying. Perhaps we should start by teaching them things like respect for authority and common sense?

Not if you started them out with air soft and in the second grade. Preschool, kindergarten and first grade get Eddie Eagle.


Unfortunately those children are being raised by the snowflakes in the college classrooms now. You're going to have to teach this generation about the responsibility before you move down to the children.
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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby chasfm11 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 7:12 am

TexasTornado wrote:
MeMelYup wrote:
John Galt wrote:I am all for campus carry, but also think that some training is a good thing.

It should be taught in school. If it were taught in school it would reduce the amount of child firearm accidents.


Having been in a classroom with recent high school graduates over the last 2.5 years, I find putting firearms in their hands slightly terrifying. Perhaps we should start by teaching them things like respect for authority and common sense?


I suspect that the good professor who left her position might see some of the same things in the students in her class rooms. For me, the most interesting part of this situation is the Constitutional Carry part. I support that concept. I also believe that age is a factor. I tried to check Kansas but couldn't find the age requirement for legal Constitutional Carry. I assume that it is 21.

As always, those who want to act in a lawful manner are likely to do so. In Texas, there is nothing to prevent a student who didn't want to obey the law from carrying concealed on campus without an LTC. The same is true for a student in Kansas who isn't 21. I guess time will tell as to whether that is a big problem. I'm in the middle of visiting many different Texas health facilities and get to walk past (unarmed, of course) 30.06 signs at nearly every one of them. Those who posted the signs are probably like the professor, thinking that the prohibition is a control. It isn't. It is the respect for the law that is the control. When the students in our schools are leaving us terrified, our problem is far greater than campus carry or Constitutional carry.
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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby WildRose » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:40 am

John Galt wrote:I am all for campus carry, but also think that some training is a good thing.
They are not mutually exclusive.

Rights however only come with responsibilities, not preconditions.


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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby WildRose » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:43 am

MeMelYup wrote:
John Galt wrote:I am all for campus carry, but also think that some training is a good thing.

It should be taught in school. If it were taught in school it would reduce the amount of child firearm accidents.
If nothing else basic gun safety certainly should be. That's what programs like Eddie The Eagle is all about.

Making firearms training even part of the curriculum, much less mandatory would face huge challenges not the least of which are the problems with liability issues which would probably be insurmountable along with the federal ban on firearms in public schools.


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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby WildRose » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:44 am

TexasTornado wrote:
MeMelYup wrote:
John Galt wrote:I am all for campus carry, but also think that some training is a good thing.

It should be taught in school. If it were taught in school it would reduce the amount of child firearm accidents.


Having been in a classroom with recent high school graduates over the last 2.5 years, I find putting firearms in their hands slightly terrifying. Perhaps we should start by teaching them things like respect for authority and common sense?
Then start by arming the staff and faculty. ;-)

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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby AJSully421 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:14 am

TexasTornado wrote:
MeMelYup wrote:
John Galt wrote:I am all for campus carry, but also think that some training is a good thing.

It should be taught in school. If it were taught in school it would reduce the amount of child firearm accidents.


Having been in a classroom with recent high school graduates over the last 2.5 years, I find putting firearms in their hands slightly terrifying. Perhaps we should start by teaching them things like respect for authority and common sense?


Well, then it is a darn good thing that no “recent high school graduates” will be carrying until after 3 or so years when they turn 21.

I have yet to be able to figure out how Campus Carry equates to “17 year olds with machine guns” in some people’s minds...
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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby LDB415 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:56 am

John Galt wrote:I am all for campus carry, but also think that some training is a good thing.


I agree and I think it should be mandatory but then I don't believe in the government having the power or authority to mandate such. Catch 22.
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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby Soccerdad1995 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:47 pm

Flightmare wrote:
John Galt wrote:I am all for campus carry, but also think that some training is a good thing.


I don't think ANYONE has disputed that training is good. Where some disagree is whether the government should be allowed to mandate it or not.


:iagree:

It's similar to the right to vote. Getting educated on the issues and candidates is something that everyone should do before they get to the ballot box. But I disagree with requiring poll tests before you get to exercise your right. And unlike the RKBA, voting isn't even a fundamental human right.
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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby Soccerdad1995 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:49 pm

LDB415 wrote:
John Galt wrote:I am all for campus carry, but also think that some training is a good thing.


I agree and I think it should be mandatory but then I don't believe in the government having the power or authority to mandate such. Catch 22.


Do you think it should be mandatory to have people get parenting classes before they have children? Mandatory education before people vote? What about anger control classes before people are allowed to interact with other humans? In an ideal world, would you like to have any / all of these be mandatory?
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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby TheFriscoKid » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:13 pm

Kansans feel the same way about Allen Field House as most Texans do about the Alamo.

Texas Tech beating them at home was a wake up call to arm. :clapping: :clapping:

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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby spectre » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:24 pm

TheFriscoKid wrote:Kansans feel the same way about Allen Field House as most Texans do about the Alamo.

They never won there?

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Re: Kansas Professor resigning - Campus Carry

Postby TreyHouston » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:37 pm

OUCH!!!!!! :eek6
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