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I just now thought to go check the DPS site for LTC related numbers for 2017.

Numbers of licenses issued in 2017: 293,751. 72% to males, 28% to females.

Number of active licenses as of 31 December 2017: 1,244,944

Conviction tally for 2017 not available yet. I think it usually comes out in May.

http://www.dps.texas.gov/rsd/LTC/report ... tscy17.htm
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I wonder how many of those are resident vs non-resident permits. I hear it's quite common for comrades from behind enemy lines to come by and get a non-resident permit.
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strogg wrote:I wonder how many of those are resident vs non-resident permits. I hear it's quite common for comrades from behind enemy lines to come by and get a non-resident permit.
You can figure that out for 2017 by the License by County report.

For 2017 there were 2,640 non-texas-county license issued, or less than 1%.

I don’t see a break out like that for total licenses though.
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ELB wrote:
strogg wrote:I wonder how many of those are resident vs non-resident permits. I hear it's quite common for comrades from behind enemy lines to come by and get a non-resident permit.
You can figure that out for 2017 by the License by County report.

For 2017 there were 2,640 non-texas-county license issued, or less than 1%.

I don’t see a break out like that for total licenses though.
Neat trick. I didn't think of that. The number of non-resident permits is a lot lower than I thought it'd be. So overall, one in 16.5-ish adults in Texas have an LTC. Not too bad... Could be better, though.
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strogg wrote:
ELB wrote:
strogg wrote:I wonder how many of those are resident vs non-resident permits. I hear it's quite common for comrades from behind enemy lines to come by and get a non-resident permit.
You can figure that out for 2017 by the License by County report.

For 2017 there were 2,640 non-texas-county license issued, or less than 1%.

I don’t see a break out like that for total licenses though.
Neat trick. I didn't think of that. The number of non-resident permits is a lot lower than I thought it'd be. So overall, one in 16.5-ish adults in Texas have an LTC. Not too bad... Could be better, though.
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strogg wrote:So overall, one in 16.5-ish adults in Texas have an LTC. Not too bad... Could be better, though.
I really wish more women would get licensed and carry. I looked at some numbers about a year ago and IIRC they were down under 20% all through 2010 or later, but there's still much room for improvement. We should at least be able to get it to 60-40 instead of 72-28.
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Rafe wrote:
strogg wrote:So overall, one in 16.5-ish adults in Texas have an LTC. Not too bad... Could be better, though.
I really wish more women would get licensed and carry. I looked at some numbers about a year ago and IIRC they were down under 20% all through 2010 or later, but there's still much room for improvement. We should at least be able to get it to 60-40 instead of 72-28.
I don't know the numbers but if I were to guess I would guess that the LTCs would be close to the 60-40 number. I think its the inertia of us that keep the numbers lower. The number of CHLs from the early days were heavily slanted toward the males a female at the time was pretty rare. Another trend I have noticed is that the initial LTCers seen to be younger.

Like I said I haven't seen any numbers just observances from real life and this forum.
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I sure hope it's closer to 60%-40%. I was just going by ELB's numbers of the licenses issued in 2017, 72% men 28% women. But I think you're right. It was heavily male in the first years, and I doubt many of those will let their license expire. They'll keep it until they aren't around to renew it any longer.
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Just from my limited experience over the past 6 months, assisting with my employer's LTC classes, our turn out is much closer to 60-40 with many wives and girlfriends taking the class with their SO. During our last class in March, my wife, daughter, and SIL all took the class. There are also a lot of mothers, and daughters taking the classes together.
My personal gun sales, are almost 50/50 male to female, with a lot of couples, buying his and hers guns.
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Jusme wrote:Just from my limited experience over the past 6 months, assisting with my employer's LTC classes, our turn out is much closer to 60-40 with many wives and girlfriends taking the class with their SO. During our last class in March, my wife, daughter, and SIL all took the class. There are also a lot of mothers, and daughters taking the classes together.
My personal gun sales, are almost 50/50 male to female, with a lot of couples, buying his and hers guns.
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Liberty wrote:
I don't know the numbers but if I were to guess I would guess that the LTCs would be close to the 60-40 number.
I would bet that the overall numbers are the other way, more like 90/10, with males being the 90%. I think women’s participation has been growing in the last few years and would not be surprised if the 28% is the high watermark to date.

I’m on my phone right now, and the Texas DPS website doesn’t play well with it so I’m having trouble looking at previous years, but if the percentage of women obtaining LTCs In each of the previous years is below 40% (And I’ll bet it’s below 25%), there’s no way that they are anywhere close to being 40% of the LTCpopulation right now.
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Number of active licenses as of 31 December 2017: 1,244,944
With the dramatic reduction in cost, first-time fee for a license to carry drops from $140 to $40 and the renewal fee from $70 to $40, I would expect the numbers for 2018 to climb.
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ELB wrote:
Liberty wrote:
I don't know the numbers but if I were to guess I would guess that the LTCs would be close to the 60-40 number.

I’m on my phone right now, and the Texas DPS website doesn’t play well with it so I’m having trouble looking at previous years, but if the percentage of women obtaining LTCs In each of the previous years is below 40% (And I’ll bet it’s below 25%), there’s no way that they are anywhere close to being 40% of the LTCpopulation right now.
I think the 28% for all LTCs is probably pretty accurate and that the new LTC licenses might be close to 40% I am pretty sure that we haven't reached 40% for all CHL licensees. I'm just guessing though. I don't really know.
I think the cost reductions, better conceal options class time reductions, and NRA promotions have all contributed. When I got initial CHL it was pretty much 95% or better men. Mostly people over 40. They are getting younger too.
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We've come a long, long way from the initial 200,000 applicants in 1995.

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