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Re: 1984

Postby Middle Age Russ » Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:58 pm

The Statists -- under the banner of Progressives, Marxists, Socialists, Communists, or any other name -- are clever and their incrementalist (taking small bites out of Liberty and individualism) playbook doesn't really change that much, but the terms they use evolves. With the direction education has taken under "No Child Left Behind" and similar programs, critical thinking is passe, and the changes in terms obfuscate the real meaning and impact of things such that relatively few public school graduates understand the real stories. Examples: "Affordable Healthcare" really isn't. "Economic Stimulus" isn't really that great a thing, particularly for the future. "Common Core" is devoid of common sense. Last, but certainly not least, is how "deficit" is always reported by the media in positive terms and rarely do we really hear anything about "debt". 1984, Animal Farm, Brave New World and the like may still be on reading lists, but learnings correlating these works with real-world policies seem too often to be missing.
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Re: 1984

Postby AndyC » Fri May 22, 2015 1:51 pm

The Annoyed Man wrote:This book was required reading when I was in high school.

We had this and Animal Farm, too - the irony wasn't lost on us either, considering that South Africa was pretty much a totalitarian country when I was in HS in the early 80s.

The rest of our reading was pretty much the classics - Homer, Shakespeare, Dickens, Bronte, classic poets, etc.
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Re: 1984

Postby android » Fri May 22, 2015 2:24 pm

I just read 1984 this week. I went to an ACE Christian school and this book was definitely not on our approved reading list when I was in high school.

First, I thought Orwell was a really good writer. The plot and story telling were top notch compared to the current fare on Kindle.

The most striking things from the book with regards to current affairs were the manipulation of the language so that dissenting views were unthinkable and inexpressable. The way the media trys to eliminate words like illegal alien or Islamic terrorist is exactly as described in the book.

While we are not yet completely rewriting the past, the present will be easily modified since most of it is digital. There's no visible effort to rewrite paper books and I hope we keep it that way. But in 2040, Minitruth could easily rewrite the events of 2015 online and the few paper traces would be ignored and insignificant.

Oddly enough, the suppression of free thought, sexuality, individualism seems to be done by both the right and left in the US somewhat equally.

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Re: 1984

Postby AndyC » Mon May 25, 2015 6:10 pm

android wrote:The most striking things from the book with regards to current affairs were the manipulation of the language so that dissenting views were unthinkable and inexpressable. The way the media trys to eliminate words like illegal alien or Islamic terrorist is exactly as described in the book.


Yup - much like our Liberals today:

the novel explicitly shows people learning Doublethink and newspeak due to peer pressure and a desire to "fit in", or gain status within the Party — to be seen as a loyal Party Member. In the novel, for someone to even recognize – let alone mention – any contradiction within the context of the Party line was akin to blasphemy, and could subject that someone to possible disciplinary action and to the instant social disapproval of fellow Party Members.
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