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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby treadlightly » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:27 pm

Well, the truth has finally reared its head - http://www.eutimes.net/2015/05/obama-ma ... tin-fears/

Putin is known to occasionally ride with the Night Wolves MC - on a trike.

I like trikes, they serve a useful role. Lots of fun. Great for touring. I have friends with trikes - but in a motorcycle gang? Is Putin really a limp-wristed wuss?

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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby SA_Steve » Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:57 pm

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/10/us/te ... rand-jury/

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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby philip964 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:50 am

http://news.yahoo.com/waco-suppressing- ... 34315.html

Waco suppressing evidence that could clear innocent bikers is the summary of the article.

This is from a news site however it is written like an editorial. It is primarily concerned with the lack of progress in releasing information to the public, such as how many of the people killed, were killed with police bullets. He makes the point that if it was zero, he suspects we would know that. It seems to remind me that we never heard in Columbine of any of the bullet forensics being released.

He points to gag orders, etc.

He also points to the Grand Jury being led by a former Waco police officer. He points to the liability of the City of Waco, if many of the bikers were arrested without probable cause. It also sounds like many have lost jobs, after being arrested.

I understand evidence not being released in order to protect the jury pool and insure a fair trial for a defendent. But keeping so much information hidden, when some of it may point to innocence of individuals, smells. It smells here and it smells in Baltimore.


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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby paperchunker » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:36 pm

philip964 wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/waco-suppressing-evidence-could-clear-innocent-bikers-110434315.html

Waco suppressing evidence that could clear innocent bikers is the summary of the article.

This is from a news site however it is written like an editorial. It is primarily concerned with the lack of progress in releasing information to the public, such as how many of the people killed, were killed with police bullets. He makes the point that if it was zero, he suspects we would know that. It seems to remind me that we never heard in Columbine of any of the bullet forensics being released.

He points to gag orders, etc.

He also points to the Grand Jury being led by a former Waco police officer. He points to the liability of the City of Waco, if many of the bikers were arrested without probable cause. It also sounds like many have lost jobs, after being arrested.

I understand evidence not being released in order to protect the jury pool and insure a fair trial for a defendent. But keeping so much information hidden, when some of it may point to innocence of individuals, smells. It smells here and it smells in Baltimore.


Slight correction, the Grand Jury Foreman is a CURRENT Waco Police detective. :banghead:
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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby VMI77 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:58 pm

:shock: What's that smell?
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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby cb1000rider » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:01 pm

philip964 wrote:This is from a news site however it is written like an editorial. It is primarily concerned with the lack of progress in releasing information to the public, such as how many of the people killed, were killed with police bullets. He makes the point that if it was zero, he suspects we would know that. It seems to remind me that we never heard in Columbine of any of the bullet forensics being released.

He points to gag orders, etc.

He also points to the Grand Jury being led by a former Waco police officer. He points to the liability of the City of Waco, if many of the bikers were arrested without probable cause. It also sounds like many have lost jobs, after being arrested.

I understand evidence not being released in order to protect the jury pool and insure a fair trial for a defendent. But keeping so much information hidden, when some of it may point to innocence of individuals, smells. It smells here and it smells in Baltimore.



If it is a gag order, it's the same judicial system that allowed a total round up of people and no bail ($1M bond) based on very limited, if any, evidence against individuals.
When you lock people up for extended periods of time, it tends to limit how they're able to make a living, which tends to limit the type of defense they can afford, which tends to make prosecution a bit easier...


It's all going to come out... Eventually...

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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby VMI77 » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:02 pm

cb1000rider wrote:
philip964 wrote:This is from a news site however it is written like an editorial. It is primarily concerned with the lack of progress in releasing information to the public, such as how many of the people killed, were killed with police bullets. He makes the point that if it was zero, he suspects we would know that. It seems to remind me that we never heard in Columbine of any of the bullet forensics being released.

He points to gag orders, etc.

He also points to the Grand Jury being led by a former Waco police officer. He points to the liability of the City of Waco, if many of the bikers were arrested without probable cause. It also sounds like many have lost jobs, after being arrested.

I understand evidence not being released in order to protect the jury pool and insure a fair trial for a defendent. But keeping so much information hidden, when some of it may point to innocence of individuals, smells. It smells here and it smells in Baltimore.



If it is a gag order, it's the same judicial system that allowed a total round up of people and no bail ($1M bond) based on very limited, if any, evidence against individuals.
When you lock people up for extended periods of time, it tends to limit how they're able to make a living, which tends to limit the type of defense they can afford, which tends to make prosecution a bit easier...


It's all going to come out... Eventually...


Which is why all the games are stupid. I guess the idea is just to delay the inevitable.
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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby SA_Steve » Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:54 am

You may have the last word.

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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby VMI77 » Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:31 pm

SA_Steve wrote:http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2015/08/why-wont-authorities-say-how-many-in.html

why-wont-authorities-say?


You know why. If it made them look good they'd be trumpeting it to the heavens. When they withhold information it's almost always because it makes them look bad.
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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby mojo84 » Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:18 pm

Here's the video of the Twin Peaks shootout.

http://kxan.com/2015/10/29/new-video-sh ... -shootout/


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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby philip964 » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:53 am

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-peaks ... 4e9eb.html

Grand jury is going to start hearing case. 180 day time limit is getting close.
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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby philip964 » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:03 am

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015 ... adly-clash

106 indicted by Grand Jury. All indicted for organized criminal activity not for shooting someone or murder.

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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby SA_Steve » Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:32 pm

Probably take years to resolve all the lawsuits. I predict it's going to be expensive for both sides.
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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby MechAg94 » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:50 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPbVrmfnKNY

Here is a youtube link to some dashcam footage from outside the Twin Peaks in Waco. From this vantage, it looks like most were not participating. I guess we will see if other video is released.


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Re: Shooting at Twin Peaks in Waco

Postby MechAg94 » Tue May 17, 2016 3:53 pm

http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas ... 516218.php

Tuesday marks the one-year anniversary of the melee that erupted among rival motorcycle clubs in a Waco sports bar, leaving nine bikers dead and about two dozen injured.


The criminal cases filed in McLennan County appear to have stalled, however, at least for now. No trial dates have been set. Authorities won't say which club members may have shot, stabbed or assaulted another, or which may have been shot by police. And even details about potential trials is unclear.
The handling of the case has left family members wondering when they will get answers to what happened at the Twin Peaks restaurant in Waco that rainy Sunday.


One year later and still lots of open questions about this one.


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