ACLU Issues Texas ‘Travel Advisory’

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Re: ACLU Issues Texas ‘Travel Advisory’

Postby TreyHouston » Wed May 10, 2017 7:39 pm

If I open an unlocked door and walk into you house, Am I your guest? If "you" believe in open borders, why do you have locks on your doors and a fence in your yard? Are you discriminating against others?
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Re: ACLU Issues Texas ‘Travel Advisory’

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Wed May 10, 2017 9:31 pm

TreyHouston wrote:If I open an unlocked door and walk into you house, Am I your guest?

Oh, I like that analogy, I like it a lot.

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Re: ACLU Issues Texas ‘Travel Advisory’

Postby Flightmare » Wed May 10, 2017 10:11 pm

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
TreyHouston wrote:If I open an unlocked door and walk into you house, Am I your guest?

Oh, I like that analogy, I like it a lot.

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A better analogy would be not just a guest, but a resident who has just as much right to be there as you. A guest can be asked to leave. Those who would support open borders would advocate that it is not right for us to ask them to leave.
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Re: ACLU Issues Texas ‘Travel Advisory’

Postby bblhd672 » Wed May 10, 2017 11:33 pm

Flightmare wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:
TreyHouston wrote:If I open an unlocked door and walk into you house, Am I your guest?

Oh, I like that analogy, I like it a lot.

Chas.


A better analogy would be not just a guest, but a resident who has just as much right to be there as you. A guest can be asked to leave. Those who would support open borders would advocate that it is not right for us to ask them to leave.


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Re: ACLU Issues Texas ‘Travel Advisory’

Postby flowrie » Thu May 11, 2017 7:42 am

I believe AG Sessions already issued a travel advisory, " Border is not open, do not come ".
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Re: ACLU Issues Texas ‘Travel Advisory’

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Re: ACLU Issues Texas ‘Travel Advisory’

Postby Dadtodabone » Fri May 19, 2017 5:05 pm

Scott Farkus wrote:
oohrah wrote:I can't believe what I'm reading! The ACLU exists solely to protect the Bill of Rights (yes, that includes the 2nd Amendment), you know, those amendments that protect the individual from the majority. This is the same group that is defending your right to keep and bear arms.

The "sanctuary city" bill went too far IMO ,because it gives the police near "papers please" powers. This bill will legitimize the profiling of honest citizens.

I support the basic intent of the bill that if you are illegal, you are a criminal, and should be handed over to the Feds, but the state is trying to tell local jurisdictions how to do their jobs.


I'd be interested in seeing a link to a single time the ACLU defended the 2nd Amendment, at least in a way that the members of this forum view it. As I recall, the ACLU doesn't believe that the right to keep and bear applies to inviduals.

The Nevada state level organization. https://www.aclunv.org/en/issues/second-amendment
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Re: ACLU Issues Texas ‘Travel Advisory’

Postby Jusme » Fri May 19, 2017 5:14 pm

Dadtodabone wrote:
Scott Farkus wrote:
oohrah wrote:I can't believe what I'm reading! The ACLU exists solely to protect the Bill of Rights (yes, that includes the 2nd Amendment), you know, those amendments that protect the individual from the majority. This is the same group that is defending your right to keep and bear arms.

The "sanctuary city" bill went too far IMO ,because it gives the police near "papers please" powers. This bill will legitimize the profiling of honest citizens.

I support the basic intent of the bill that if you are illegal, you are a criminal, and should be handed over to the Feds, but the state is trying to tell local jurisdictions how to do their jobs.


I'd be interested in seeing a link to a single time the ACLU defended the 2nd Amendment, at least in a way that the members of this forum view it. As I recall, the ACLU doesn't believe that the right to keep and bear applies to inviduals.

The Nevada state level organization. https://www.aclunv.org/en/issues/second-amendment


Read their statement closely. It says with Constitutionally allowed restrictions. This is their same stance everywhere. They don't belive the statement, "The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" refers to an individual right.
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Re: ACLU Issues Texas ‘Travel Advisory’

Postby Dadtodabone » Fri May 19, 2017 5:26 pm

Jusme wrote:
Dadtodabone wrote:
Scott Farkus wrote:
oohrah wrote:I can't believe what I'm reading! The ACLU exists solely to protect the Bill of Rights (yes, that includes the 2nd Amendment), you know, those amendments that protect the individual from the majority. This is the same group that is defending your right to keep and bear arms.

The "sanctuary city" bill went too far IMO ,because it gives the police near "papers please" powers. This bill will legitimize the profiling of honest citizens.

I support the basic intent of the bill that if you are illegal, you are a criminal, and should be handed over to the Feds, but the state is trying to tell local jurisdictions how to do their jobs.


I'd be interested in seeing a link to a single time the ACLU defended the 2nd Amendment, at least in a way that the members of this forum view it. As I recall, the ACLU doesn't believe that the right to keep and bear applies to inviduals.

The Nevada state level organization. https://www.aclunv.org/en/issues/second-amendment


Read their statement closely. It says with Constitutionally allowed restrictions. This is their same stance everywhere. They don't belive the statement, "The right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed" refers to an individual right.

Not at all the same, the others all state their disagreement with SCOTUS rulings like Heller.
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