Is the right to bear arms outdated?

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Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby AndyC » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:26 pm

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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby ScottDLS » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:31 pm

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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby TexasJohnBoy » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:33 pm

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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby parabelum » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:41 pm

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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby CZp10 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:42 pm

Yikes, so far 24% say they literally want the second amendment removed from the constitution. I can understand people wanting to review the restrictions put on it or not put on it, but removing it completely? There are two things America is known for that almost no other country in the world has, the second amendment and capitalism. If you don't like those two things, which many on the left don't, there are many, many countries that they can move to. There is nowhere else for people who like those two things to go.

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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby anygunanywhere » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:53 pm

CZp10 wrote:Yikes, so far 24% say they literally want the second amendment removed from the constitution. I can understand people wanting to review the restrictions put on it or not put on it, but removing it completely? There are two things America is known for that almost no other country in the world has, the second amendment and capitalism. If you don't like those two things, which many on the left don't, there are many, many countries that they can move to. There is nowhere else for people who like those two things to go.


What those 24% want and what they get are two entirely different things.
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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby Captain Matt » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:53 pm

CZp10 wrote:Yikes, so far 24% say they literally want the second amendment removed from the constitution. I can understand people wanting to review the restrictions put on it or not put on it, but removing it completely?

What's the difference? It says "shall not be infringed" which is unambiguous. Anybody willing to accept restrictions is already pretending it doesn't exist.
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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby Flightmare » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:55 pm

anygunanywhere wrote:
CZp10 wrote:Yikes, so far 24% say they literally want the second amendment removed from the constitution. I can understand people wanting to review the restrictions put on it or not put on it, but removing it completely? There are two things America is known for that almost no other country in the world has, the second amendment and capitalism. If you don't like those two things, which many on the left don't, there are many, many countries that they can move to. There is nowhere else for people who like those two things to go.


What those 24% want and what they get are two entirely different things.


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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby Soccerdad1995 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:01 pm

Bear in mind that this is the web site of a small paper in California. I don't think the 24% is representative of the U.S. population as a whole (for purposes of discussion, I'm ignoring the whole "is Kalifornia really part of the U.S. in the first place, question).
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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby deertrax » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:07 pm

No.

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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby CZp10 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:11 pm

23% ban handguns from non LEO, 55% want stricter gun sale laws, 37% want stricter US gun policy
http://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx
My personal opinion is we, as pro 2A people, should be doing more to try to explain our view constructively to those who don’t “like” guns.


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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby tool4daman » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:14 pm

I bet those 24% would also like to abolish capitalism.
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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby anygunanywhere » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:17 pm

CZp10 wrote:23% ban handguns from non LEO, 55% want stricter gun sale laws, 37% want stricter US gun policy
http://news.gallup.com/poll/1645/guns.aspx
My personal opinion is we, as pro 2A people, should be doing more to try to explain our view constructively to those who don’t “like” guns.


I'm retired. I've got better things to do than try to convince someone who doesn't like me or my guns to like me or my guns. I don't care what they like or don't like. Trying to constructively convince those individuals is like explaining quantum theory to that white stuff on chicken poo.
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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby jason812 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:40 pm

anygunanywhere wrote:
I'm retired. I've got better things to do than try to convince someone who doesn't like me or my guns to like me or my guns. I don't care what they like or don't like. Trying to constructively convince those individuals is like explaining quantum theory to that white stuff on chicken poo.


:iagree: You're not going to change their mind anyway.

And the white dot on chicken poo, it's chicken poo too.

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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Postby anygunanywhere » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:44 pm

jason812 wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
I'm retired. I've got better things to do than try to convince someone who doesn't like me or my guns to like me or my guns. I don't care what they like or don't like. Trying to constructively convince those individuals is like explaining quantum theory to that white stuff on chicken poo.


:iagree: You're not going to change their mind anyway.

And the white dot on chicken poo, it's chicken poo too.


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