So many unanswered questions.....
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So many unanswered questions.....
http://valleycentral.com/news/local/pol ... b-in-pharr
http://www.krgv.com/story/37248379/poli ... an-injured
- I hope this wasn't one of ours (LTC).
- I'm guessing "no-holster-carry" or purse carry with no dedicated holster/pocket
- apparently they DO NOT have the person responsible ID'ed or in custody.
- the location is a relatively new HEB Plus (so presumably a good camera system inside and out)
and apropos of nothing
- the main Pharr PD is about 4 blocks away
- Pharr is historically a center of gang activity (google "Tri-City Bombers")
Waiting for further updates to be released on this one.......
http://www.krgv.com/story/37248379/poli ... an-injured
- I hope this wasn't one of ours (LTC).
- I'm guessing "no-holster-carry" or purse carry with no dedicated holster/pocket
- apparently they DO NOT have the person responsible ID'ed or in custody.
- the location is a relatively new HEB Plus (so presumably a good camera system inside and out)
and apropos of nothing
- the main Pharr PD is about 4 blocks away
- Pharr is historically a center of gang activity (google "Tri-City Bombers")
Waiting for further updates to be released on this one.......
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Re: So many unanswered questions.....
We know nothing at this point, nothing, let’s wait for the facts.
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Re: So many unanswered questions.....
Why yes, or it could be a glock, high point, jennings, SA, colt, browning, taurus, S&W, ruger, keltec, charter arms,ati, sti, ria, beretta, fn, cz, walther, bersa, cobra, naa, chippa, Rorbaugh, century, kahr....OneGun wrote:Could the gun be a Sig Sauer?
should I go on? I can do this all day!
As Jay said, we know absolutely NOTHING!
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Re: So many unanswered questions.....
Unfortunately, the gun type information is important safety information, and it's unlikely we will ever know. I figure as long as I'm not accident/drop-proof I want my handguns to be drop-proof.flechero wrote:Why yes, or it could be a glock, high point, jennings, SA, colt, browning, taurus, S&W, ruger, keltec, charter arms,ati, sti, ria, beretta, fn, cz, walther, bersa, cobra, naa, chippa, Rorbaugh, century, kahr....OneGun wrote:Could the gun be a Sig Sauer?
should I go on? I can do this all day!
As Jay said, we know absolutely NOTHING!
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Re: So many unanswered questions.....
I don't disagree but that's not what I said. We don't know, and making crap up just further blurs it. I googled glock drop fire and found posts and videos saying/showing it happen. So could it have been a glock? The point was that we don't know and guessing is just that.Liberty wrote:Unfortunately, the gun type information is important safety information, and it's unlikely we will ever know. I figure as long as I'm not accident/drop-proof I want my handguns to be drop-proof.flechero wrote:Why yes, or it could be a glock, high point, jennings, SA, colt, browning, taurus, S&W, ruger, keltec, charter arms,ati, sti, ria, beretta, fn, cz, walther, bersa, cobra, naa, chippa, Rorbaugh, century, kahr....OneGun wrote:Could the gun be a Sig Sauer?
should I go on? I can do this all day!
As Jay said, we know absolutely NOTHING!
How many stories have we heard about guns "going off"??? With the info we have it could have just as easily been a clear ND from handling where they dropped it when it discharged.... (we see those WAY more often than a true drop scenario)
or could have been a "drop safe" gun, fired in a purse with a lipstick tube in the trigger guard when the purse was dropped.
99.99% of guns that fire (yes, I made up that number) when dropped are fired during drop test protocol, hit with hammers or released from a fixture designed to make impact at a specific angle... not an actual drop fire- which is surprisingly rare.
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Re: So many unanswered questions.....
I hope this doesn't cause HEB to change their policy, they are currently just 30.07.
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Re: So many unanswered questions.....
Given that they apparently don't have the gun carrier, how do we even know that the gun fired from being dropped. All we really know is that a round was fired inside the store.......
Is the 'drop' part Fake News; or does it imply that there was a witness or that they looked at the security camera footage before issuing a statement to the press?
Is the 'drop' part Fake News; or does it imply that there was a witness or that they looked at the security camera footage before issuing a statement to the press?
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Re: So many unanswered questions.....
As Paul Harvey used to say, "Now we have....the rest of the story".
http://valleycentral.com/news/local/arr ... ts-shopper
http://valleycentral.com/news/local/arr ... ts-shopper
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Re: So many unanswered questions.....
Hopefully not, since it would seem that the guy has been charged with unlawful carry of a weapon, thus a 30.06 sign wouldn't have applied to him anyway. I'm going on the assumption that he doesn't have an LTC.oohrah wrote:I hope this doesn't cause HEB to change their policy, they are currently just 30.07.
Police issued an arrest warrant for Meza for unlawful carrying a weapon and endangering a child.
Re: So many unanswered questions.....
How can Meza be guilty of unlawful carrying a weapon that was in Rivera's purse?
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Re: So many unanswered questions.....
Judging from her being charged also, I am guessing that Rivera said it was Meza's gun and he put it in her purse in the store. She probably, like many women, put the purse in the shopping cart and he was actually pushing the cart. And Rivera's charge for failure to report a felony was based on her knowing Meza had the gun in her purse inside the licensed premise.bigtek wrote:How can Meza be guilty of unlawful carrying a weapon that was in Rivera's purse?
But that is just a guess.
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Re: So many unanswered questions.....
They don't have Meza in custody, but they already had what appear to be mug shots to provide to the media.....
I'm guessing that irrespective of the HEB incident, Meza was already a prohibited person (from possessing a firearm) and that Rivera's charges stem from failing to report a prohibited person in possession of a firearm.
I'm guessing that irrespective of the HEB incident, Meza was already a prohibited person (from possessing a firearm) and that Rivera's charges stem from failing to report a prohibited person in possession of a firearm.
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Re: So many unanswered questions.....
Did hell freeze over or is it just a coincidence a medial outlet finally got it right.." at the time of the negligent discharge"
negligent discharge..Not accident, not Gun went off, not fired for unknown reasons "negligent discharge"
Im shocked, but not so much I did not stop to send CBS 4 News a note thanking them for using verbiage that accurately described the incident
negligent discharge..Not accident, not Gun went off, not fired for unknown reasons "negligent discharge"
Im shocked, but not so much I did not stop to send CBS 4 News a note thanking them for using verbiage that accurately described the incident
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