More Big Brother: NYC's Gunshot Detection System

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More Big Brother: NYC's Gunshot Detection System

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It seems that this system doesn't really perform as expected. But, as expected, the city has found more uses for it anyway.

http://fusion.net/story/107298/is-nycs- ... ersations/

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As Tyrone Lyles lay dying from a gunshot wound on an East Oakland street in 2007, he let out a few last words that would ultimately help authorities convict his killer.

“Why you done me like that, Ar?” he pleaded. “Ar, why you do me like that, dude?”

The exchange, which was used in court, was recorded by ShotSpotter, a gunshot detection system that has been installed in over 90 cities across the country. By placing a series of microphones around high-crime neighborhoods, the system is able to pinpoint the location of where a gunshot took place with surprising accuracy, leading to faster response times from police.
A 2013 investigation of ShotSpotter devices in Newark, NJ, found that 75 percent of the gunshot alerts had been for false alarms.
“Today, we are rolling out cutting edge technology to make the city safer, to make our neighborhoods safer, to keep our officers safer,” NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio said in an appearance with police commissioner William J. Bratton to announce the initiative. “This gunshot detection system is going to do a world of good in terms of going after the bad guys.”

But cases in which microphones have picked up incriminating evidence have raised the eyebrows of privacy advocates, who note that there could be Fourth Amendment implications.

“We are always concerned about secondary uses of technology that is sold to us for some unobjectionable purpose and is then used for other purposes,” Jay Stanley, a senior policy analyst at the American Civil Liberties Union’s Speech, Privacy and Technology Project, told Take Part. “If [ShotSpotter] is recording voices out in public, it needs to be shut down.”
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Re: More Big Brother: NYC's Gunshot Detection System

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Absolutely violating the 4th Amendment if it's being used as anything except to locate the source of a gunshot sound.
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Chicago has had these for years.....before CHL passed. Sent notification and flashing red lights.

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With these and those false cell towers, they know everything we're saying anyways. If you want complete privacy first thing to do is have no cellphone and then move far from any city. Even then youll prob be spotted by a Google Truck lol.

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Not necessary in NYC as guns are illegal there.

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mr1337 wrote:Absolutely violating the 4th Amendment if it's being used as anything except to locate the source of a gunshot sound.
It would be interesting to test the constitutionality of it.
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mr1337 wrote:Absolutely violating the 4th Amendment if it's being used as anything except to locate the source of a gunshot sound.

Wouldn't that be similar to having cameras every where?
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Re: More Big Brother: NYC's Gunshot Detection System

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Not only that, they also have long range scanners that are man portable to do a high tech strip search of you to look for guns. It is unconstitutional, unwarranted searches are unconstitutional. Wash DC and NYC both have these scanners. You could be walking down the street and all they have to do is point it at you and look at the video screen.

NYC is using a lower tech unit that is designed to see through your clothes: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/2 ... 44687.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Washington DC has a high tech unit that can see through your car doors.
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