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Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:17 pm
by RoyGBiv
I'm gobsmacked!

Right there on the sliding doors. :grumble

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 4:52 am
by parabelum
Years ago when I drove OTR I'd pass through Gallup and go north towards Shiprock. With all due respect to folks living there, that place used to be one of the sketchiest. Why would they not want law abiding citizens carrying in their WM there? Mental illness?

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:49 am
by Oldgringo
parabelum wrote:Years ago when I drove OTR I'd pass through Gallup and go north towards Shiprock. With all due respect to folks living there, that place used to be one of the sketchiest. Why would they not want law abiding citizens carrying in their WM there? Mental illness?
Maybe you answered your own question?

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 11:47 am
by C-dub
Right where? Was there supposed to be a picture or link?

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:50 pm
by 38cobra
Maybe it's tribal law - that's reservation country there.

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:55 pm
by The Annoyed Man
38cobra wrote:Maybe it's tribal law - that's reservation country there.
That was my thought. I just stay on I-40 and drive on through.......get my gas elsewhere.

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:42 pm
by RoyGBiv
C-dub wrote:Right where? Was there supposed to be a picture or link?
Sorry. No pic.

Right there = 18"sign in the middle of the two sliding doors at every entrance.

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 9:47 pm
by RoyGBiv
38cobra wrote:Maybe it's tribal law - that's reservation country there.
According to Wikipedia (grain of salt) Gallup is near tribal land but not described as being a part of tribal land. Good thought.. Would explain the off limits if not the logic.

Thanks!

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:38 pm
by WTR
Gallup is know as the most dangerous city in NM. I wouldn't be surprised if it is on tribal land.

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:27 am
by RoyGBiv
WTR wrote:Gallup is know as the most dangerous city in NM. I wouldn't be surprised if it is on tribal land.
The Walmart was pretty busy at 11PM local. Folks didn't look especially sketchy, (lots of young-ish Native Americans, many with kids in tow) but I didn't need that chap stick badly enough to disarm in the parking lot to go get it. The gas station had one the next morning.

The scariest part of this trip was landing in Bakersfield, not finding my bag, and when I asked the TSA agent to point me to the baggage office he said (loudly) "Did you check a firearm?" Nearly messed my pants being outed in California in the first 5 minutes. :lol: (I was 100% California compliant, but still unnerving)

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:12 am
by WildBill
WTR wrote:Gallup is know as the most dangerous city in NM. I wouldn't be surprised if it is on tribal land.
From Wikipedia
Gallup is known as the "Heart of Indian Country" because it is in the middle of the Navajo reservation and home to many tribes.

Gallup, New Mexico, violent crime, on a scale from 1 (low crime) to 100, is 96. Violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder
and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. The US average is 41.4.

Gallup, New Mexico, property crime, on a scale from 1 (low) to 100, is 83. Property crime includes the offenses of burglary,
larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and arson. The object of the theft-type offenses is the taking of money or property, but
there is no force or threat of force against the victims. The US average is 43.5.

CRIME Gallup, NM United States
Violent Crime 96.3 41.4
Property Crime 83 43.5
http://www.bestplaces.net/crime/city/new_mexico/gallup

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:12 am
by G26ster
RoyGBiv wrote:
C-dub wrote:Right where? Was there supposed to be a picture or link?
Sorry. No pic.

Right there = 18"sign in the middle of the two sliding doors at every entrance.
Don't you think it might be nice to tell us what the sign said? Or, is this a test? Or, are we supposed to just guess? :confused5

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:26 am
by RoyGBiv
G26ster wrote:
RoyGBiv wrote:
C-dub wrote:Right where? Was there supposed to be a picture or link?
Sorry. No pic.

Right there = 18"sign in the middle of the two sliding doors at every entrance.
Don't you think it might be nice to tell us what the sign said? Or, is this a test? Or, are we supposed to just guess? :confused5
It said "No Firearms Allowed on these Premises"...
Such signs have the force of law in NM.

Never meant to make you guess... just wasn't relevant, since ANY "No Guns" sign has force of law in NM.

Didn't want to take a photo just then... would have drawn too much attention.

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:39 am
by ScottDLS
This is kind of unusual, since Walmart has a policy of not posting their stores, but perhaps because it's in Indian Country (am I allowed to say that or is it a microagression?)

Re: Walmart Gallup NM Off Limits

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:50 am
by RoyGBiv
WildBill wrote:From Wikipedia
Gallup is known as the "Heart of Indian Country" because it is in the middle of the Navajo reservation and home to many tribes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallup,_N ... mographics
It has close proximity to Native American reservations,
Looking at a Google map and at the Federal Lands map... I don't believe the land the WalMart is on is tribal... Possible, but believe not.
http://nationalmap.gov/small_scale/prin ... nds/NM.pdf
Gallup Federal.jpg
If I would have know those crime stats when we were deciding where to stop, I likely would have kept driving.
I certainly would not have gone to WalMart at 11:PM... :lol: