Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

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Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

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Re: Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

Postby Soccerdad1995 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:25 am

Wow. It sounds like Florida judges are as bad as Texas judges when it comes to just making up laws that they wish were actually passed by the legislature. Someone needs to explain to these folks that being a judge is not the same as being a Deity.

Threatening to throw the Sheriff in jail unless he violates the law? I wonder who the judge plans on making the arrest. I also wonder how the judge would react if the Sheriff responded by arresting him for abuse of power. Now that would be really interesting.
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Re: Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

Postby ScottDLS » Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:16 pm

In Louisiana the only one that can arrest the Sheriff of the Parish is the Parish Coroner...or so I saw on Discovery channel...
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Re: Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

Postby carlson1 » Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:24 pm

ScottDLS wrote:In Louisiana the only one that can arrest the Sheriff of the Parish is the Parish Coroner...or so I saw on Discovery channel...


I do not know if the law has changed, but this used to be the law in Arkansas.
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Re: Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

Postby Jusme » Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:33 am

ScottDLS wrote:In Louisiana the only one that can arrest the Sheriff of the Parish is the Parish Coroner...or so I saw on Discovery channel...




In Texas it is the Constable.
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Re: Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

Postby ScottDLS » Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:37 am

Jusme wrote:
ScottDLS wrote:In Louisiana the only one that can arrest the Sheriff of the Parish is the Parish Coroner...or so I saw on Discovery channel...




In Texas it is the Constable.


I would assume DPS/Rangers could do it too, but maybe it has to be a County LEO like a Constable.
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Re: Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

Postby bigtek » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:53 pm

Soccerdad1995 wrote:Wow. It sounds like Florida judges are as bad as Texas judges when it comes to just making up laws that they wish were actually passed by the legislature. Someone needs to explain to these folks that being a judge is not the same as being a Deity.

Threatening to throw the Sheriff in jail unless he violates the law? I wonder who the judge plans on making the arrest. I also wonder how the judge would react if the Sheriff responded by arresting him for abuse of power. Now that would be really interesting.

:thumbs2: We have the psycho judges. It would be nice if we had some of those sheriffs and legislators to balance the teapot tyrants.

Last I heard, the sheriff called his bluff and the judge agreed to let the Florida Second District Court of Appeal decide.

Situations like this are a great example why fines should be paid by the official violating the law, not the taxpayers.
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Re: Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

Postby Soccerdad1995 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:23 pm

bigtek wrote:
Soccerdad1995 wrote:Wow. It sounds like Florida judges are as bad as Texas judges when it comes to just making up laws that they wish were actually passed by the legislature. Someone needs to explain to these folks that being a judge is not the same as being a Deity.

Threatening to throw the Sheriff in jail unless he violates the law? I wonder who the judge plans on making the arrest. I also wonder how the judge would react if the Sheriff responded by arresting him for abuse of power. Now that would be really interesting.

:thumbs2: We have the psycho judges. It would be nice if we had some of those sheriffs and legislators to balance the teapot tyrants.

Last I heard, the sheriff called his bluff and the judge agreed to let the Florida Second District Court of Appeal decide.

Situations like this are a great example why fines should be paid by the official violating the law, not the taxpayers.


Fines are a start, but I'm not sure why they shouldn't face jail time for illegal acts that would land me in jail. Maybe the idea is that since I am the public official's boss, I should know better? After all, they are just my employee, and may be a bit slow.
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Re: Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

Postby LeonCarr » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:15 pm

Ya'll might want to research the whole "Only a Constable can arrest a Sheriff in Texas" thing.

To my knowledge (21 years LEO) there is no statute or law, in Texas anyway, that provides the Sheriff immunity from arrest by any other peace officer.

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Re: Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

Postby OldCurlyWolf » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:42 am

LeonCarr wrote:Ya'll might want to research the whole "Only a Constable can arrest a Sheriff in Texas" thing.

To my knowledge (21 years LEO) there is no statute or law, in Texas anyway, that provides the Sheriff immunity from arrest by any other peace officer.

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Re: Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

Postby Zoo » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:24 pm

Soccerdad1995 wrote:
bigtek wrote:Situations like this are a great example why fines should be paid by the official violating the law, not the taxpayers.


Fines are a start, but I'm not sure why they shouldn't face jail time for illegal acts that would land me in jail.

They should. However, this story is about the Florida version of fines for signs, which has teeth.
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Re: Go Florida! Why can't we get a few Texas legislators to do this?

Postby remington79 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:15 pm

I'd have to look it up but I thought the Sheriff was the chief LEO in their county since they are elected. I can't remember the case but it had to do with the Sheriff of a county who would not enforce the Brady Bill and the court said he was the highest LEO and there was nothing they could do about him not enforcing it.
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