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Oregon Confiscation Law

Postby chasfm11 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:28 am

I'm a little concerned about this one. None of the local Oregon media outlets are carrying it but it appears in a number of the gun blogs
It looks like a Republican, after a personal loss, is trying to make sure that others don't have that same experience but at the expense of many.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/how-oregon-democrats-rammed-through-gun-confiscation-bill-and-how-a-republican-helped/
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Re: Oregon Confiscation Law

Postby puma guy » Sat Jul 08, 2017 12:49 pm

We can only hope the AYE voters are reported as a danger to themselves and others. They didn't include knives, clubs/bats, hammers, tire tools, etc. Wonder why? :headscratch This will eventually be struck down, IMHO. Beside eliminating due process, there's way too much room for abuse of the law.
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Re: Oregon Confiscation Law

Postby crazy2medic » Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:32 pm

puma guy wrote:We can only hope the AYE voters are reported as a danger to themselves and others. They didn't include knives, clubs/bats, hammers, tire tools, etc. Wonder why? :headscratch This will eventually be struck down, IMHO. Beside eliminating due process, there's way too much room for abuse of the law.


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Re: Oregon Confiscation Law

Postby Ameer » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:27 pm

So what they're saying is we should cache a backup that we can use it to recover the others. Like for computers.
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Re: Oregon Confiscation Law

Postby flechero » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:42 pm

I wonder if a wrongfully accused person can sue the ill-intentioned accuser in civil court?? That would be a way to keep it in check- financial ruin for a wrongful accuser.

If not, first anonymous accusation should go against the dem's personal security personnel.


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Re: Oregon Confiscation Law

Postby strogg » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:14 pm

As if the household thing wasn't bad enough... I read this bit on the site:

It also allows any police officer to make the same accusations about you to a judge. The police officer does not need to know you or even have ever met you.


Welp, if that goes through, both 2A and 4A are basically done in Oregon. There's no way this will pass in its current form.


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Re: Oregon Confiscation Law

Postby chasfm11 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:10 pm

strogg wrote:As if the household thing wasn't bad enough... I read this bit on the site:

It also allows any police officer to make the same accusations about you to a judge. The police officer does not need to know you or even have ever met you.


Welp, if that goes through, both 2A and 4A are basically done in Oregon. There's no way this will pass in its current form.


One of the news stories said that it had passed the House and was enroute to the governor's office. That report suggested that she were certain to sign it.

Based on articles that I've read about other subjects in Oregon, the Bill of Rights is a waste of time there. I think they they more Progressive than California.
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Re: Oregon Confiscation Law

Postby strogg » Sun Jul 09, 2017 10:57 am

That is very sad to hear. It's disappointing to see that some states are just going so "progressive" that their governments are turning into authoritarian regimes. That really does sound ironic to me. Their next hope now, I guess, is an injunction on the bill like the standard capacity magazine ban of California. Until then, I've visited Oregon already and got my fill. I'm not planning on going back there anytime soon.

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Re: Oregon Confiscation Law

Postby mojo84 » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:40 pm

This kind of stuff is scary. Instead of evaluating the potentially dangerous person to see if he is really a threat or needs help, just go take his guns. Yeah, that's the answer.

I just don't see how such a law such as this would have helped the republican and his son. Had the republican exhausted all other options to get his son help? With a law like this, it's too easy to claim someone is a danger and have their guns confiscated and rights trampled. I might could see it if the claim of someone might be a danger triggered an investigation and evaluation while maintaining the person's rights to due process.

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Re: Oregon Confiscation Law

Postby cheezit » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:16 pm

chasfm11 wrote:
strogg wrote:As if the household thing wasn't bad enough... I read this bit on the site:

It also allows any police officer to make the same accusations about you to a judge. The police officer does not need to know you or even have ever met you.


Welp, if that goes through, both 2A and 4A are basically done in Oregon. There's no way this will pass in its current form.


One of the news stories said that it had passed the House and was enroute to the governor's office. That report suggested that she were certain to sign it.

Based on articles that I've read about other subjects in Oregon, the Bill of Rights is a waste of time there. I think they they more Progressive than California.


Really the state has the same exact issues as California and Illinois, the state is ruled by a few liberal cities.


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