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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby Russell » Wed May 20, 2009 3:08 pm

I thought it needed 21 votes to pass the senate?

So where exactly are we on this now?
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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Wed May 20, 2009 3:10 pm

Russell wrote:I thought it needed 21 votes to pass the senate?

So where exactly are we on this now?


It needed 21 votes to suspend the Senate Rules and bring it up for debate and voting. Then it only takes a simple majority to pass.

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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby Originalist » Wed May 20, 2009 4:09 pm

Been awhile since I have posted but I follow almost everyday. Thank you to all who actively took part in SB 1164 passing the Senate. Thanks to all who contacted their Senator to push for passage. Alot more work is left for this and other important RTKBA legislation. Keep up the good work.

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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby T3hK1w1 » Thu May 21, 2009 7:30 am

That's actually a lot less biased than I was expecting.
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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby austin-tatious » Thu May 21, 2009 10:35 am

T3hK1w1 wrote:That's actually a lot less biased than I was expecting.

It was plenty biased. The tired refrain of "guns make me nervous" and "some one will get a bad grade and start shooting". The only point in favor of our rights was the VT crime.

Why isn't the issue of self-defense against rapes, assaults, and robberies talked about more often or at all? That's the real reason for the bill! :mad5 This is a common-sense gun law.


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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby scott_dfw » Thu May 21, 2009 11:03 am

+1

The idea that a student will start 'blasting' for a bad grade or a jilted love affair is preposterous. No moreso than a person who gets cut-off in traffic, or rear-ended by a soccer mom driving while putting on make-up in the morning. We hear about CHL holders shooting innocent soccer moms and roadrage incidents all the time!! :roll: :roll: ...Rightttt

I hope that the people who vote on this will look at real-world instead of listening to the "kids and parents" who are worrying their little lives away about "someone with a gun".

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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby J.R.@A&M » Thu May 21, 2009 11:25 am

I agree.. it is preposterous, and I'm tired of hearing these concerned faculty types being quoted in the paper. If college students are that emotionally unstable, then these professors would be worried constantly about students going postal under current law.
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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby Bart » Thu May 21, 2009 11:54 am

Have they removed all knives from campus dining halls? You know, to stop students from stabbing professors when they get bad grades.
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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby J.R.@A&M » Thu May 21, 2009 1:35 pm

New Urgent Item in Mr. Cotton's thread from 12:58.
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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby pdubyoo » Thu May 21, 2009 5:30 pm

Here is a link to the Texas Legislative web site. You can follow any bill and bring-up a .pdf of the latest archived action.
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup ... ill=SB1164

Currently, SB1164 has been sent to the House from the Senate, and it now needs to be read officially to the House, assigned to committee, and the committe must either give it a favorable or unfavorable report. If it's a favorable report, which it should be since it has strong support in the House, it then has to go to the Calendars Committee, and hopefully set on the House Major Calendar. You can get more info from Mr. Cotton's thread viewtopic.php?f=92&t=25064 .
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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby pdubyoo » Thu May 21, 2009 5:51 pm

Here is the official recording of the amendments and the final senate vote tally...

(SenatorWatson in Chair)
COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE
SENATE BILL 1164 ON THIRD READING
Senator Wentworth moved to suspend the regular order of business to take up for
consideration CSSB 1164 at this time on its third reading and final passage:
CSSB 1164, Relating to the carrying of concealed handguns on the campuses of
institutions of higher education.
The motion prevailed.
Senators Davis, Duncan, Ellis, Lucio, Ogden, Shapleigh, VanideiPutte, Watson,
West, and Zaffirini asked to be recorded as voting "Nay" on suspension of the regular
order of business.
The bill was read third time.
Senator Vanide Putte, on behalf of Senator Uresti, offered the following
amendment to the bill:
Floor Amendment No. 1 on Third Reading
Amend CSSB 1164 on third reading as follows:
(1) In Section 411.2031, Government Code, as added by SECTION 1 of the bill,
insert a new Subsection (g) to read as follows:
(g) This section does not permit a license holder to carry a concealed handgun
on or about the premises of a hospital maintained or operated by an institution of
higher education.
(2) Add the following SECTION to the bill, appropriately numbered, to read as
follows:
SECTIONi____. Section 46.03, Penal Code, is amended by adding Subsection
(j) to read as follows:
(j) Subsection (a)(1)(B) does not permit a person to possess a concealed
handgun, or go with a concealed handgun, on the premises of a hospital maintained or
operated by an institution of higher education
.

The amendment to CSSB 1164 was read and was adopted by a viva voce vote.
All Members are deemed to have voted "Yea" on the adoption of Floor
Amendment No. 1 on Third Reading.
On motion of Senator Wentworth and by unanimous consent, the caption was
again amended to conform to the body of the bill as amended.
CSSB 1164 as again amended was finally passed by the following
vote: Yeas 20, Nays 11.
Yeas: Carona, Deuell, Eltife, Estes, Fraser, Harris, Hegar, Hinojosa, Huffman,
Jackson, Lucio, Nelson, Nichols, Patrick, Seliger, Shapiro, Uresti, Wentworth,
Whitmire, Williams.
Nays: Averitt, Davis, Duncan, Ellis, Gallegos, Ogden, Shapleigh, VanideiPutte,
Watson, West, Zaffirini.
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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby Locksmith » Thu May 21, 2009 8:52 pm

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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby Russell » Thu May 21, 2009 8:56 pm

I can guarantee you Ogden will not get my vote next time. He has ticked me off beyond belief.

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Re: SB 1164 Campus Carry in floor debate NOW

Postby shootthesheet » Thu May 21, 2009 11:43 pm

Senator Duncan.... :nono: Universities do not have a right to vote. Also, very few if anyone who didn't want campus carry wouldn't vote for him anyway. And what if this does pass? Does he think the liberal minded people at Tech are going to remember that he tried to kill this bill? What a Maroon.


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