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What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby Coogan » Fri May 22, 2009 7:38 pm

There are some rumors in the news that Rick Perry may call a special session in June. See the link below for more details (I don´t know anything about the source).

http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/ ... -insurance

If our bills don´t get debated during the regular session, would a special session bring us another chance, or are we out of luck until 2011?


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Re: What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby Russell » Fri May 22, 2009 7:45 pm

I hope he does call a special session. I hope he calls 15 special sessions to make sure every single bill that is being held up gets a chance to have a vote.
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Re: What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby Douva » Fri May 22, 2009 9:13 pm

Coogan wrote:There are some rumors in the news that Rick Perry may call a special session in June. See the link below for more details (I don´t know anything about the source).

http://www.burntorangereport.com/diary/ ... -insurance

If our bills don´t get debated during the regular session, would a special session bring us another chance, or are we out of luck until 2011?


There are different rules for special sessions. Check out the House Rules if you want more information. I've been hearing those rumors too. I may check into it later. I'd be interested to know if our bills could be reintroduced in a special session.

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Re: What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby boomerang » Fri May 22, 2009 9:22 pm

They need a special session. There are still a couple of people in Texas who didn't have a resolution passed honoring their birthday.
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Re: What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby srothstein » Fri May 22, 2009 9:34 pm

All of the currently introduced bills die at the end of this session. If there is a special session, it can only be called for some specific purpose to be discussed. If anyone wants to introduce a bill other than for that purpose, they must get the call to session modified to include their topic.

There is no reason our bills could not be re-introduced during a special session, but it would probably cost us quite a bit of political capital. I don't see them as being justification enough for a session, but depending on how things go, I could see where we might get one called for something else modified to include some of our topics. I just am not sure if it would be worth the political capital or if, tactically, we would be better off waiting until the next regular session.
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Re: What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby Douva » Fri May 22, 2009 10:31 pm

srothstein wrote:All of the currently introduced bills die at the end of this session. If there is a special session, it can only be called for some specific purpose to be discussed. If anyone wants to introduce a bill other than for that purpose, they must get the call to session modified to include their topic.

There is no reason our bills could not be re-introduced during a special session, but it would probably cost us quite a bit of political capital. I don't see them as being justification enough for a session, but depending on how things go, I could see where we might get one called for something else modified to include some of our topics. I just am not sure if it would be worth the political capital or if, tactically, we would be better off waiting until the next regular session.


Attached are the House rules on special sessions. It might not be the easiest thing to accomplish, but it doesn't seem to me that getting a few gun bills reintroduced in a special session would be entirely out of the question. But that's a bridge better crossed if and when it's reached.
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Re: What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby Liberty » Sat May 23, 2009 7:29 am

srothstein wrote:All of the currently introduced bills die at the end of this session. If there is a special session, it can only be called for some specific purpose to be discussed. If anyone wants to introduce a bill other than for that purpose, they must get the call to session modified to include their topic.

There is no reason our bills could not be re-introduced during a special session, but it would probably cost us quite a bit of political capital. I don't see them as being justification enough for a session, but depending on how things go, I could see where we might get one called for something else modified to include some of our topics. I just am not sure if it would be worth the political capital or if, tactically, we would be better off waiting until the next regular session.

That special purpose they might be called on about is the Voter ID bill. Cant see campus carry or Parking lot bill rising to that level of importance with our politicians, even if they sympathatic to our cause. Only The governor can call a special session.
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Re: What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby Douva » Sat May 23, 2009 1:30 pm

Liberty wrote:
srothstein wrote:All of the currently introduced bills die at the end of this session. If there is a special session, it can only be called for some specific purpose to be discussed. If anyone wants to introduce a bill other than for that purpose, they must get the call to session modified to include their topic.

There is no reason our bills could not be re-introduced during a special session, but it would probably cost us quite a bit of political capital. I don't see them as being justification enough for a session, but depending on how things go, I could see where we might get one called for something else modified to include some of our topics. I just am not sure if it would be worth the political capital or if, tactically, we would be better off waiting until the next regular session.

That special purpose they might be called on about is the Voter ID bill. Cant see campus carry or Parking lot bill rising to that level of importance with our politicians, even if they sympathatic to our cause. Only The governor can call a special session.


I haven't heard any indication that they'd call a special session over the voter ID Bill. The only thing Governor Perry has suggested might merit a special session is the coastal wind insurance bill. With that said, the rules do grant some latitude in the applicability rule, and the Governor is allowed (and, it seems to me, encouraged) to cast a relatively wide net, in order to allow the legislature adequate leeway to pass bills they deem important. The Governor could, theoretically, declare the purpose of the special session as "to vote on the wind insurance bills and other bills not reached during the regular session." I'm not saying he'd do that; I'm just saying that if a special session became a strong possibility, due to the wind insurance bill being killed by chubbing, the Governor might come under pressure to allow other bills killed by chubbing to be reintroduced during that same special session.

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Re: What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby roberts » Fri May 29, 2009 1:24 pm

I think he should call a special session for the Voter ID bill. Nothing else. Show the chubbies that they're only hurting themselves.
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Re: What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Fri May 29, 2009 2:21 pm

"Our bills" won't be part of a special session. The two primary bills (parking lots & campus-carry) are far too controversial and pit friends against friends to the Governor's detriment. Plus, having a bill in a special session allows for a lot more focused opposition and this typically makes it easier to kill a bill than to pass it. As much as I don't want to have to wait until 2011, that's reality.

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Re: What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby RedRaider » Fri May 29, 2009 2:42 pm

Charles L. Cotton wrote:"Our bills" won't be part of a special session. The two primary bills (parking lots & campus-carry) are far too controversial and pit friends against friends to the Governor's detriment. Plus, having a bill in a special session allows for a lot more focused opposition and this typically makes it easier to kill a bill than to pass it. As much as I don't want to have to wait until 2011, that's reality.

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Charles, while we didn't get what we all wanted accomplished this session (parking lot bill and campus carry), I thank you for your hard work and time spent on these issues!!!!!! :tiphat:

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Postby Keith B » Fri May 29, 2009 2:48 pm

RedRaider wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:"Our bills" won't be part of a special session. The two primary bills (parking lots & campus-carry) are far too controversial and pit friends against friends to the Governor's detriment. Plus, having a bill in a special session allows for a lot more focused opposition and this typically makes it easier to kill a bill than to pass it. As much as I don't want to have to wait until 2011, that's reality.

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Charles, while we didn't get what we all wanted accomplished this session (parking lot bill and campus carry), I thank you for your hard work and time spent on these issues!!!!!! :tiphat:


+1 to you, Alice and the rest of the TSRA Legislative staff on their diligence on these issues. Had it not been for all of you guys, as well as the firearms supporters contacting their Legislators, we would have never gotten anywhere near the ground gained this session. :txflag:
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Re: What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby WildBill » Fri May 29, 2009 2:54 pm

Keith B wrote:
RedRaider wrote:
Charles L. Cotton wrote:"Our bills" won't be part of a special session. The two primary bills (parking lots & campus-carry) are far too controversial and pit friends against friends to the Governor's detriment. Plus, having a bill in a special session allows for a lot more focused opposition and this typically makes it easier to kill a bill than to pass it. As much as I don't want to have to wait until 2011, that's reality.

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Charles, while we didn't get what we all wanted accomplished this session (parking lot bill and campus carry), I thank you for your hard work and time spent on these issues!!!!!! :tiphat:


+1 to you, Alice and the rest of the TSRA Legislative staff on their diligence on these issues. Had it not been for all of you guys, as well as the firearms supporters contacting their Legislators, we would have never gotten anywhere near the ground gained this session. :txflag:

:iagree: I, also want to thank you for your long hours of hard work and your committment. I can't imagine your frustration, but your tenacity will ultimately triumph. :patriot: :txflag:
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Postby GaryAdrian » Fri May 29, 2009 3:41 pm

Ditto to all the above! Thanks ! :iagree:
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Re: What would a Special Session mean to our bills?

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Fri May 29, 2009 4:29 pm

Thanks guys; Alice and I appreciate the kind words. I'll pass this along to her.

Parking lots and campus-carry are both dead and beyond resurrection. However, although I can't say what yet, we have something in the works that will be good, if we can pull it off. I'm sorry to be so cryptic, but I want you folks to know we're working for you until the last opportunity.

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