John Cornyn of Texas is focused on bump-stocks

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Re: John Cornyn of Texas is focused on bump-stocks

Postby Oldgringo » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:28 pm

John Cornyn, like all the rest of 'em, is focused on being re-elected. TERM LIMITS!

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Postby Pawpaw » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:03 pm

mojo84 wrote:A bipartisan effort to ban bump stocks.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/35476 ... ump-stocks




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A bipartisan pair of lawmakers unveiled legislation on Tuesday to ban a device used by the suspected gunman in the Las Vegas massacre to make semi-automatic weapons fire shots more rapidly.

The bill, authored by Reps. Carlos Curbelo (R-Fla.) and Seth Moulton (D-Mass.), would prohibit the manufacture, sale and use of the devices, known as “bump stocks,” or anything similar that is designed to increase the rate of fire but doesn’t convert a semi-automatic rifle into an automatic weapon.

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Re: John Cornyn of Texas is focused on bump-stocks

Postby anygunanywhere » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:04 am

Oldgringo wrote:John Cornyn, like all the rest of 'em, is focused on being re-elected. TERM LIMITS!


This is not going to help him get reelected.
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Re: John Cornyn of Texas is focused on bump-stocks

Postby Lynyrd » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:04 am

Thomas Massie from Kentucky is pushing back. And he makes some good points.

http://reason.com/blog/2017/10/11/bump-stock-ban-criminalizes-possession-o

Massie is also troubled by the retroactive criminalization of devices that people already own. "Are the manufacturers going to be compelled by the government to turn over lists of customers who legally acquired [products] that were declared by the regulatory authority to be legal?" he wonders. "This could set the precedent for a gun grab if you're retroactively banning these things."
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Re: John Cornyn of Texas is focused on bump-stocks

Postby TexasJohnBoy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:08 am

This is an ambiguous, poorly worded bill and shouldn't see the light of day.
https://curbelo.house.gov/uploadedfiles ... ockban.pdf
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Re: John Cornyn of Texas is focused on bump-stocks

Postby MechAg94 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:49 am

mojo84 wrote:A bipartisan effort to ban bump stocks.

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/35476 ... ump-stocks




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October 10, 2017 - 03:30 PM EDT
Bipartisan lawmakers unveil bill to ban gun bump stocks

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A bipartisan pair of lawmakers unveiled legislation on Tuesday to ban a device used by the suspected gunman in the Las Vegas massacre to make semi-automatic weapons fire shots more rapidly.

The bill, authored by Reps. Carlos Curbelo (R-Fla.) and Seth Moulton (D-Mass.), would prohibit the manufacture, sale and use of the devices, known as “bump stocks,” or anything similar that is designed to increase the rate of fire but doesn’t convert a semi-automatic rifle into an automatic weapon.

As I have heard mentioned by lots of others, many accessories can be said to "increase the rate of fire" of an AR well beyond a slide-fire stock. Foolish wording like that will get upgraded triggers and all sorts of things banned. It could probably even be stretched to include high capacity magazines.


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Re: John Cornyn of Texas is focused on bump-stocks

Postby BBYC » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:35 pm

A semi auto action has an increased rate of fire compared to a manual bolt action. A manual bolt action has an increased rate of fire compared to a single shot metallic cartridge rifle. A single shot metallic cartridge rifle has an increased rate of fire compared to a 1776-era Kentucky Rifle.
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Re: John Cornyn of Texas is focused on bump-stocks

Postby Soccerdad1995 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:39 pm

The retroactive application part is a HUGE problem and sets a very dangerous precedent.
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Re: John Cornyn of Texas is focused on bump-stocks

Postby Soccerdad1995 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:52 pm

parabelum wrote:So I guess they’ll ban belts etc. those can be used to increase the rate of fire...oh, we need to ban fingers too. Yes, like human fingers! They definitely increase the rate of fire. Sweet!


Belts, rubber bands, wood/plastic/metal rods, enhanced trigger components, sand paper and other abrasives that can be used to smooth up trigger components, bipods help you get back on target quicker, thus increasing your rate of fire, as do scopes of all types, after market iron sights, and of course hi-capacity magazines (anything over 1 round capacity) which dramatically increase the rate of fire for these evil killing machines by requiring less frequent reloads.

If you possess any of the above, whether you own an AR or not, you go to jail. Yep, sounds like "common sense gun control" to me. I guess it's just too bad that my 70 year old mom will be facing prison time for the wooden spoon she has in her kitchen.....
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Re: John Cornyn of Texas is focused on bump-stocks

Postby Bitter Clinger » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:00 pm

Here is the Bill:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-con ... -bill/3999

Of course, they are calling this a "common sense gun law". That clearly identifies it as anything but "common sense". It is, as posted prior, ambiguous and could lead to the banning of any aftermarket AR component.

Here is the link to a petition to prevent the bill:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petiti ... signed-law
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