Gun Owners Not Welcome on Obama's White House Team?
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IMO, Obama and Biden should be required to publish full answers to this questionnaire for review by their employers.
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That's kind of the point isn't it? The supreme law of the land says our right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. If registering Muslims violates the 1st amendment then registering guns violates the 2nd amendment. Same thing with people who have abortions or sex. Especially since I can't find ANYTHING in the Constitution that mentions abortion or homosexuality.nitrogen wrote:Again, medical records. HIV status is arguably protected under the Americans with Disabilities act. It's also not illegal to be a homosexual anymore, and being a homosexual doesn't require registration in any state.boomerang wrote:Are you or anyone in your family homosexual? Do they have HIV?Again, religious affiliation is specifically protected under the 1st amendment, and federal law. Registration of Muslims would violate the 1st amendment. You'd be better off asking of any family members are members of terrorist groups, i.e. Hamas.[/list][*]Are you or any member of your immediate family Muslim? If so, provide complete registration information. Has the registration ever lapsed? Please also describe how and with whom they worship and whether they have been involved in any terrorist act in the United States or abroad.
I can't find anything in the Constitution that allows laws to protect gay rights but not gun rights. Maybe my google-fu is weak today. Help me out.nitrogen wrote:And rightly so, as most of those questions, unlike the gun question, violate the law, as well as common decency.boomerang wrote:I think the Left's reaction to any of those questions would make our discussion here seem tame by comparison.
Asking someone how they exercise their 1st amendment rights violates common decency the same amount as asking someone how they exercise their 2nd amendment rights. If one is beyond the pale then so is the other. But I don't see how that's relevant unless you're saying Karl Rove has more class in his pinkie finger than Obama has in his entire administration.
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You're assuming that merely asking about gun posession/use in a high profile job, like a cabinet position somehow infringes someone's right to bear arms. Please explain how asking the question infringes on that right?
I still say that this is a free country, and if you don't like the questions asked of you for this job, you don't have to take it; just like any other citizen is free to do so.
Also, I don't see anywhere where it's assumed that a question answered any specific way means you don't get the job. One of my coworkers has a felony DUI, and we still hired him, but we asked him about it on the job form.
Here is the entire questionnaire. Check it out.
I still say that this is a free country, and if you don't like the questions asked of you for this job, you don't have to take it; just like any other citizen is free to do so.
Also, I don't see anywhere where it's assumed that a question answered any specific way means you don't get the job. One of my coworkers has a felony DUI, and we still hired him, but we asked him about it on the job form.
Here is the entire questionnaire. Check it out.
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Re: Gun Owners Not Welcome on Obama's White House Team?
It infringes upon the right to keep and bear arms exactly the same way asking about religion prohibits the free exercise thereof. It may be small. It may be large. It may be not at all. Either it's constitutional to ask about both or the constitution prohibits both lines of questioning.nitrogen wrote:You're assuming that merely asking about gun posession/use in a high profile job, like a cabinet position somehow infringes someone's right to bear arms. Please explain how asking the question infringes on that right?
I'll agree with you when private companies are allowed to ask questions during the hiring process about religion, sexual orientation, number of children, number of spouses, preexisting medical conditions, etc.nitrogen wrote:I still say that this is a free country, and if you don't like the questions asked of you for this job, you don't have to take it; just like any other citizen is free to do so.
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Not according to current federal law, it doesn't. Companies ask this question of job applicants today; we've had threads about it, and will continue to do so until the EEO laws are changed. I don't see this happening anytime soon, unfortunately.t infringes upon the right to keep and bear arms exactly the same way asking about religion prohibits the free exercise thereof. It may be small. It may be large. It may be not at all. Either it's constitutional to ask about both or the constitution prohibits both lines of questioning.
I'm not saying it's morally right, but it's legally right, like many other things.
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Re: Gun Owners Not Welcome on Obama's White House Team?
I wonder if Joe Biden had to fill out a "questionnaire", since he owns two shotguns.
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