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Machineguns in Australia

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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby mojo84 » Mon Oct 05, 2015 8:30 am

Firing twelve rounds in half a second is impressive for a homemade gun.

I thought since such was illegal in Australia there wouldn't be any of these in existence down there.
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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby baldeagle » Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:58 am

mojo84 wrote:Firing twelve rounds in half a second is impressive for a homemade gun.

I thought since such was illegal in Australia there wouldn't be any our these in existence down there.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....very funny.....
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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby VMI77 » Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:30 pm

If you're going to have an illegal gun and risk going to prison why not make it a machine gun? Expect to see more machine guns in use here if they ban semi-autos as they have in Australia. On another island, Britain, criminals apparently have no problem acquiring machine guns, and even grenades.
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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby AndyC » Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:50 am

If anyone brings up Australia, hit them with this beauty:

"Australia is in the grip of a gun-plague with an estimated 250 thousand illegal weapons stashed away. The federal government says many are smuggled in. A quarter of a million illegal firearms - enough to give every soldier in the Australian Army 8 guns each."

"Sydney's notorious drive-bys...

"Alarm in police ranks over the number of machineguns being uncovered on Perth's streets..."

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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby jb2012 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:15 pm

AndyC wrote:If anyone brings up Australia, hit them with this beauty:

"Australia is in the grip of a gun-plague with an estimated 250 thousand illegal weapons stashed away. The federal government says many are smuggled in. A quarter of a million illegal firearms - enough to give every soldier in the Australian Army 8 guns each."

"Sydney's notorious drive-bys...

"Alarm in police ranks over the number of machineguns being uncovered on Perth's streets..."



Shoot, I can give you a ton of information proving the failure of the Australian Gun Confiscation. I don't have the link, but in 2004 (I believe) the director of the Australian Bureau of Justice stated that it was a failure. It is definitely commendable that they haven't had a mass shooting since but the rest of their crime has done nothing but sky rocket. I.E. women in Australia are 3 times more likely to be raped and a 46% increase in armed robbery...

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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby AndyC » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:09 pm

Perhaps you're referring to this one from the National Center for Policy Analysis?

In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.


http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/?Article_ID=17847

I'm using my second video a LOT in online debates with antis who love Hillary's recent mention of the Aussie gun-grab - it drives them crazy because it comes from Aussie TV stations :lol:
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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby puma guy » Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:13 pm

AndyC wrote:Perhaps you're referring to this one from the National Center for Policy Analysis?

In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.


http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/?Article_ID=17847

I'm using my second video a LOT in online debates with antis who love Hillary's recent mention of the Aussie gun-grab - it drives them crazy because it comes from Aussie TV stations :lol:

I had this debate with some people on FB who posted the farcical statistics some blogger put out. Even when citing Australia's own stats there are those who ignore facts and logic, taking a purely emotional postion. Gotta keep fighting anyway.
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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby AndyC » Tue Oct 27, 2015 7:07 am

So many guns. So many violent people. Melbourne has changed

I don’t recall this level of gun violence before in all the years I’ve lived in Melbourne. Something has changed:

Gunfire has narrowly missed a woman’s head in a terrifying road rage incident north-east of Melbourne. The 22-year-old woman and her passenger, a 17-year-old boy, was allegedly tailgated by a four-wheel-drive from Donvale to Healesville before its driver fired shots through her car’s back window.

Also on Sunday:

[Racing Victoria Chief Steward]Terry Bailey ... was relaxing with his wife and teenage daughters in the back yard when, at 9.20pm on Sunday, bullets from a semi-automatic gun tore into the front door.

Police have been told that about a week earlier, a bikie wearing gang colours rode past the home of Racing Victoria head of integrity­ Dayle Brown.

And this morning:


http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andr ... s_changed/

http://www.3aw.com.au/news/victorias-gu ... kanoi.html
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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby VMI77 » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:56 am

Usually in places like this with "strict gun control" news of gun crime is suppressed....so is this reporting signaling another push for confiscation?
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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby AndyC » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:16 am

Illegal firearm unit to 'stop guns getting to crooks', Victoria Police says

A new firearms investigation unit within Victoria Police will be led by a team of experienced investigators aiming to "stop guns getting to crooks", the Deputy Commissioner has said. Deputy Commissioner Shane Patton said the unit, set up in response to a recent increase in shooting across the Melbourne area, would be part of the Purana Taskforce targeting organised crime.

"The objective will be to try and prevent shootings through disrupting the supply of firearms to criminals, so to try and stop the guns getting to crooks," he told 774 ABC Melbourne.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-06/i ... ns/6918280
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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby mojo84 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:38 am

Am I the only one that can't play the second video? It says it's not available in my country. The thought popped in my head someone is censoring it since they don't want the truth to spread.

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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby AndyC » Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:56 am

Hmmm - neither of them are available any more. If I find them, I'm uploading them to my own account.

Edit: Found them and uploaded - links fixed.
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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby mojo84 » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:15 am

Working now. Thanks.

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Re: Machineguns in Australia

Postby AndyC » Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:48 am

Thanks for the heads-up; I would have hated to lose those.
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