ATF White Paper discusses deregulating suppressors and arm braces

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ATF White Paper discusses deregulating suppressors and arm braces

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http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017 ... er-leaked/

This is YUGE. It suggests that if Congress will pass the HPA and Trump signs, there will be no institutional resistance from ATF along the way.
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:iagree: Yeah, what he said.






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The Annoyed Man wrote:http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017 ... er-leaked/

This is YUGE. It suggests that if Congress will pass the HPA and Trump signs, there will be no institutional resistance from ATF along the way.
Or it shows that at least one high level bureaucrat in the ATF would like to remain employed during the Trump administration! :biggrinjester:
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You're the worm in my apple today. :lol:
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The Annoyed Man wrote: You're the worm in my apple today. :lol:
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TAM,

Do you know: Is it the hope suppressors will simply be allowed to be bought freely and installed, no muss, no fuss with paperwork, no tax for owning one (or multiple) and no wait?

Or ...?

Thanks!
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The Annoyed Man wrote:You're the worm in my apple today. :lol:

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Abraham wrote:TAM,

Do you know: Is it the hope suppressors will simply be allowed to be bought freely and installed, no muss, no fuss with paperwork, no tax for owning one (or multiple) and no wait?

Or ...?

Thanks!
I've been wondering this too. I had heard that they would be treated the same as rifles. You'd still need a background check without a LTC, but no more tax stamp or extra paperwork. If that's the case, could you legally make your own off the record, like you can rifles as long as you don't sell them? Haven't had time to research it.
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flechero wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote: You're the worm in my apple today. :lol:
Thanks for that one, TAM, I'll be using it later! :lol:
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Abraham wrote:TAM,

Do you know: Is it the hope suppressors will simply be allowed to be bought freely and installed, no muss, no fuss with paperwork, no tax for owning one (or multiple) and no wait?

Or ...?

Thanks!
I've been wondering this too. I had heard that they would be treated the same as rifles. You'd still need a background check without a LTC, but no more tax stamp or extra paperwork. If that's the case, could you legally make your own off the record, like you can rifles as long as you don't sell them? Haven't had time to research it.
This. 4473 and out the door.
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KC5AV wrote:
LucasMcCain wrote:
Abraham wrote:TAM,

Do you know: Is it the hope suppressors will simply be allowed to be bought freely and installed, no muss, no fuss with paperwork, no tax for owning one (or multiple) and no wait?

Or ...?

Thanks!
I've been wondering this too. I had heard that they would be treated the same as rifles. You'd still need a background check without a LTC, but no more tax stamp or extra paperwork. If that's the case, could you legally make your own off the record, like you can rifles as long as you don't sell them? Haven't had time to research it.
This. 4473 and out the door.
NICS call involved if you don't have a LTC, but otherwise, suppressor sales would be treated like any other firearms sale.
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The Annoyed Man wrote: NICS call involved if you don't have a LTC, but otherwise, suppressor sales would be treated like any other firearms sale.
Cool. And making your own?
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LucasMcCain wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote: NICS call involved if you don't have a LTC, but otherwise, suppressor sales would be treated like any other firearms sale.
Cool. And making your own?
I can say for sure, but I would suspect that would still require a serial number on the tube or one of the other parts........unless it were dealt with the same way as an 80% lower, or something like that.
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Further commentary http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017 ... g-ammo-oh/

I really hope this is a showing of the winds of change...
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