Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

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Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby Soap » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:47 pm

No more Russian AKs, no chance of them coming back. Will this effect Russian ammo as well?

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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby Pawpaw » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:20 pm

Without a link, this thread is worthless.
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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby Soap » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:02 pm

Pawpaw wrote:Without a link, this thread is worthless.



So you should have said "I have no clue"

Here a link since you're living under a rock. Distrubitors are mixed on the ammo. Some saying its being shut off too. I was hoping someone here knew since most are pretty intelligent here. MOST.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/28/politics/ ... index.html



https://www.facebook.com/AkOperatorsUnion/

^they have a post reffering to the banned AKs

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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby Pawpaw » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:15 pm

I've read about the sanctions, but none of the articles I could find say anything about firearms or ammunition.

Do you have some inside info, or are you jumping to conclusions?
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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby Oldgringo » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:16 pm

My my, there seems to be a bit of testiness in the air?

FWIW, Pawpaw, Mrs. Oldgringo just asked me what the "Russian sanctions" bill was about. I immediately said, "beats me".

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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby Pawpaw » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:19 pm

I know. Everything I've read says there are going to be sanctions, but I can't find a word about what those sanctions will entail.
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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby Darth Paul » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:31 pm

The bill I saw didn't mention firearms or ammunition. Searching for arms and weapons returned hits on WMD in the context of North Korea and Iran. Also a hit on Russia using its natural gas exports as an economic weapon. Nothing about small arms.


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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby NotRPB » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:44 pm

VEPRS
The Molot Vepr FM-AK rifle
https://modernrifleman.net/2017/06/21/m ... sanctions/

VEPR prices on gunbroker etc, I see increasing

Google
https://www.google.com/search?q=veprs+r ... 8&oe=utf-8

Of course there are AKs made in other countries ...
A VEPR forum post said "Century Arms has announced they will be producing Draco AK's in the US "
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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby Darth Paul » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:51 pm

NotRPB wrote:VEPR prices on gunbroker etc, I see increasing

FUD


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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby NotRPB » Sat Jul 29, 2017 2:54 pm

http://www.guns.com/2017/07/14/century-releases-100-american-made-draco-ak-pistol/
Century releases ‘100% American Made’ Draco AK pistol
7/14/17

Florida-based Century Arms announced the release of a Draco AK pistol design made completely in the U.S. as fewer models are being imported from overseas.


I imagine there will be more manufactured here instead of imported, more jobs ... hope the quality is decent.

last year i saw VEPRs for $399 after the Obama ban scare went away and dealers had overstocked, now I see $1,600

http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=VEPR&Sort=5

https://www.legionusa.com/vepr-rifle-7.62x39mm-russian-classic.html

This is where they had been $399 Centerfire Systems, they're $750 or so now, but zero are in stock, so ...
https://www.centerfiresystems.com/c-137-firearms.aspx#Pg0|Ge464|
We are sold out at this time
Also, I mean you can still get Romanian/Yugoslavian, etc etc, but seems price increased because RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA !!!!...

Century Arms N-PAP AK47 RIFLE RI2087-N
AK47 Yugo Zastava N-PAP Rifle $50 Factory Rebate
Century Arms N-PAP Semi-automatic 762X39 16" Wood Side Mount Scope Rail Threaded Slant Brake 30Rd Adjustable Sights RI2087-N .
Price: $499.00 in stock
https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ak47-yugo-zastava-n-pap-fixed-wood-stock-detail.html?Itemid=0


https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/ak-47-74-rifles.html

https://www.atlanticfirearms.com/compon ... l?Itemid=0

The Russian VEPRs are in demand
http://www.k-var.com/shop/Vepr-rifles Vepr is 50% more reinforced than a standard, stamped AK rifle.
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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby Darth Paul » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:10 pm

Imports are still subject to the Bush era ban so it may be more competitive to assemble them here. Palmetto has some nice looking AKs including a set with matching serial numbered AK and AR for less than a thousand dollars.

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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby The Annoyed Man » Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:47 pm

Soap wrote:
Pawpaw wrote:Without a link, this thread is worthless.



So you should have said "I have no clue"

Here a link since you're living under a rock. Distrubitors are mixed on the ammo. Some saying its being shut off too. I was hoping someone here knew since most are pretty intelligent here. MOST.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/28/politics/ ... index.html



https://www.facebook.com/AkOperatorsUnion/

^they have a post reffering to the banned AKs

.......and I was recently thinking about getting an AK, just for the heck of it.
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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby Bitter Clinger » Sat Jul 29, 2017 7:36 pm

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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby nightmare69 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:17 pm

Wonder if this will put a damper on Russian mail order brides.
2/26-Mailed paper app and packet.
5/20-Plastic in hand.
83 days mailbox to mailbox.

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Re: Russian Sanctions hits Trumps desk

Postby The Annoyed Man » Sat Jul 29, 2017 10:27 pm

Bitter Clinger wrote:Who cares? I'm going 300 Blackout!

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/0 ... -blackout/

I've already got one of those. LOL

The problem is ammo availability, which can be intermittent and tends to be a bit pricey.
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