"Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

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"Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby bblhd672 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:24 pm

Fake 911 call from estranged mother-in-law in another city results in grandfather, a 65 year old Navy veteran, being gunned down in his kitchen at 3:15am. :banghead:

http://newschannel9.com/news/local/walker-county-man-killed-by-deputy-remembered-as-perfect-golden
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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby WTR » Sat Jan 06, 2018 2:49 pm

The Austin paper's statistics show that only 7% of the people killed by the Polce in 2017, were unarmed. Seem a bit high?


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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby philip964 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:22 pm

Had a gun in his hand and pointed it at the officers.

Did I read that right or am I missing something.

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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby G.A. Heath » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:26 pm

WTR wrote:The Austin paper's statistics show that only 7% of the people killed by the Polce in 2017, were unarmed. Seem a bit high?


Not necessarily. A person driving a car is "unarmed" but if someone tries to run over pedestrians then officers would be justified in shooting the "unarmed suspect". While that is a clear cut scenario I suspect most of the "unarmed" shootings are less clear.
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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby Bushwhacker » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:38 pm

I predict a paid vacation for the shooter.


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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby wheelgun1958 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:01 pm

Did they knock on the door and state they were sheriff deputies or did they shout it as they busted the door open?

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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby ScottDLS » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:15 pm

wheelgun1958 wrote:Did they knock on the door and state they were sheriff deputies or did they shout it as they busted the door open?

:grumble


They threw a flash bang grenade in and then announced themselves, but he couldn’t hear them because of the flash bang. :biggrinjester:

Meanwhile ATF is investigating whether the flash bang was registered as a destructive device on atf form 5.
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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby MechAg94 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:29 pm

Article says they claim to have identified themselves several times. I am curious how. Were all three of them yelling? He may have been hard of hearing.

The text of the 911 report doesn't mention a crime was in progress, but it sounds like the officers approached it that way.

I guess I assume they have not obtained all the phone records and that is why they are not saying the 911 report was intentionally false.


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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby MechAg94 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:41 pm

http://www.northwestgeorgianews.com/cat ... fedb9.html
Found this link. This drew a different picture to me.

Stagg said that, at the time of the incident, five people were inside the house: Mark Parkinson, his wife Diana, Amy and her two children, a 6-year-old and a 16-year-old. Amy and her children were staying with her parents during the divorce proceedings, he said.

Stagg said they were asleep when Parkinson heard their three dogs barking from inside the residence. Parkinson retrieved his firearm for protection, Stagg said. Parkinson and his wife Diana then went into the kitchen area and heard someone banging on the kitchen window, Stagg said.

Within seconds, three shots were fired, with one striking Parkinson's jugular vein (throat area), causing him to bleed to death, the lawyer said.

Diana called for Amy to come downstairs and call 911, he said. Amy, a registered nurse, began to administer aid to her father by applying pressure to his neck, Stagg said.

Stagg said the family waited 3-5 minutes until paramedics and law enforcement arrived, believing that an unknown assailant had shot and killed Parkinson through the kitchen window. Stagg said no one in the family heard the knocking on the door or the three deputies announcing their arrival.

Stagg said Parkinson and Diana did not see law enforcement outside the residence and, to their knowledge, an unknown someone was simply banging on their kitchen window at 3 a.m.


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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby MechAg94 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:46 pm

http://newschannel9.com/news/local/nc9- ... t-happened
This was gives the same information.

I would be curious to hear comment from resident LEO or former LEO. In the Wichita case, everyone was outside the house. In this case, the officers are looking through the windows. According to the family, there was no effort to announce themselves or knock on the door. The link in the OP say they did, but it doesn't really say they were outside the house at the time (or maybe I missed that fact). This one seems pretty fishy. I would be interested in seeing 911 transcripts for when the family called 911 as well.


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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby Abraham » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:57 pm

If I'm in my home, not wearing my prescription hearing aids, which I don't anymore as they drove me crazy...ok, crazier....

Later some L.E. demand outside my home I do this or that - what I can't hear is a real pickle...and guess what, I DON'T have to wear them for their convenience.

But, yeah, they get to kill me because I couldn't hear them well enough...wonderful country we live in.


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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby MechAg94 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:21 pm

One other tidbit from the link I posted, the family is saying they waited 3 to 5 minutes for police and paramedics to show up after the shooting. So....did the LEO's who did the shooting go call for paramedics themselves? Why didn't they enter the house and take control of the situation and render first aide or try to secure the woman who was supposed to be a danger to themselves and others? Did they realize at this point that the original 911 call was incorrect? It also appears they didn't knock on the door in the first place.

Lots of odd facts around this story that makes it look like more than just a simple Swatting case.


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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby Abraham » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:36 pm

What's being done about the swatter's creating this mayhem...?


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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby MechAg94 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:12 pm

Abraham wrote:What's being done about the swatter's creating this mayhem...?

I am also interested in how Police can modify their tactics so they stop shooting innocent people. In this case, I am having trouble understanding how the officer's life was in danger when all he had to do was duck down and clear out. Knocking on a window in the middle of the night and then shooting through it when the homeowner is armed? That is some serious bull. I am hoping more information is forthcoming. This one appears to be a lot less in the officers favor than the other incidents.

As far as the Swatting, if the family's version is correct, it at least appears the officers were trying to scout around instead of busting down the door immediately, but it looks to me like they screwed it up.


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Re: "Swatting" claims another innocent victim shot by LEO

Postby flechero » Sat Jan 06, 2018 6:29 pm

1st part of the story in first link... WOMAN threatened XYZ... First part of story from other link... elderly man shot from OUTSIDE the house... what the heck?!?!?!? What's up with so many LEO's lately???

I think if LEO's are going to shot someone from OUTSIDE the structure, they better have MUCH BETTER info and KNOW they have the right person.

We need to send a few swatters up for life without parole or to the death penalty to send the message. Innocent people being gunned down is NOT acceptable.


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