Rescheduling of 2009 TexasCHLforum Day at PSC - AGAIN!

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On which day would you prefere to see the 2009 TexasCHLforum Day at PSC scheduled?

August 22, 2009
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October 24, 2009
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I would attend on either day
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Rescheduling of 2009 TexasCHLforum Day at PSC - AGAIN!

Postby Charles L. Cotton » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:41 am

Well, the Sept. 26th date for the 2009 TexasCHLforum Day at PSC didn't last long. I was just informed that the IDPA National Championship is also on Saturday, Sept. 26th, so that date won't work for us. I have no idea how many of our participants would want to shoot the Nationals, but I do know that many of our instructors for seminars, shooting clinics and mini-clinics are going to be at the Nationals.

We have a choice of moving the 2009 TexasCHLforum Day at PSC to Saturday, August 22nd or Saturday, October 24th. Each day has its advantages and disadvantages. August will be much hotter than October. There is a better chance of a rain in October, but perhaps not a huge difference.

We decided to let you folks decide when to hold this year's event, so please answer the poll if you plan on attending. Whatever date is chosen, we will still move this annual event to April beginning in 2010.

We have a lot of new members on TexasCHLforum that probably have no idea what this event is, so I'll give a short overview. The TexasCHLforum Day at PSC is an all-day event at the PSC Shooting Club in Friendswood, TX. It consists of seminars (1 hr.), shooting clinics (1 3/4 hrs.) and mini-clinics (45 min.) on various gun, self-defense and shooting topics. The topics planned for last year were:

Clinics (1 3/4 hrs.)
    Defensive shotgun
    Intro. to IDPA Competition
    Ladies Only: General pistol skills & drills

Mini-clinics (45 min.)
    Basics: Proper grip, trigger control & sights
    Drawing & Engaging
    Purses & Fanny Packs
    Proper Use of Cover & Concealment
    Shooting on the Move
    Engaging Multiple Targets
    Retention Shooting & Withdrawal
    Speed reloading - semi-autos
    Malfunction drills - semi-autos

Seminars
    Christians & Self-Defense
    Training Opportunities - What's available
    TABC Seminar
    Awareness
    Ladies Issues

In addition to the above-listed events, we have open shooting on the Texas Stars, a "CHL Fashion Show" during the lunch break, and something we call "Find the Gun for You" that provides an opportunity for people to shoot various different guns to see what they like best.

Lunch has been provided by the Bun-Stuffers, a rodeo cooking team.

Since last year's event had to be cancelled because of Ike, I suspect we will run the same lineup of events this year, but the prior schedule will be changed. While the seminars and clinics are run only once, each mini-clinic was scheduled three different times during the day. Our goal is to make it possible for people to attend most of the events they find most useful for their skill level. Looking at last year's registration, we had some events that filled up all three time slots (mini-clinics) and others that had no one scheduled for a particular time slot. Even if we keep all of these events in this year's schedule, we will adjust the number of times some mini-clinics are offered to better use our ranges.

The Bay C Project will be finished and operational long before either the August or October dates, so that will add a lot to the moving shooters and/or moving targets clinics. If possible, we will also make this bay available for people to try their hand at the moving targets, outside of a formal clinic. The Bay C Project will consist of dual running targets (60 feet), 10 turning targets and 6 lateral moving targets (2 feet). Each of these targets will be computer controlled and can be operated in unison, or individually. This target system will also be set up for various city facades giving us tremendous scenario and training design capability.

Please vote if you are planning on attend this year's event.

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Postby Charles L. Cotton » Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:52 am

Here is a copy of the event description from last year. While it is likely we will keep the same clinics, mini-clinics and seminars, the instructors may change. These people committed to teach based upon last year's schedule, so they may not be available this year.

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2008 TexasCHLforum Day at PSC Event Description wrote:Changes for This Year

In an ongoing effort to make it possible for people to attend more seminars and clinics, we are changing the format for this year's event. The goal is to break down some of the clinics into discrete aspects of shooting and offer those subjects as mini-clinics. A mini-clinic will be 45 minutes long and will be limited to six students. Every mini-clinic will be offered at three different times during the day to make it possible for people to schedule their day so as to cover almost all of the subjects offered this year. Seminars will be one hour long. Clinics, mini-clinics and seminars will require registration, so the sooner you send in your Registration Form, the greater your chance of getting the schedule you want. As before, there will be activities available all day.

The day's events are listed below, along with a brief description of their content.

Thanks for your interest and we hope to see you at the 2008 TexasCHLforum Day at PSC.

Chas.
Shooting Clinics (1 3/4 hrs.):
Defensive Shotgun [Instructor - Gregg Garrett]

This is the first year a defensive shotgun course has been offered, so it is likely to be a very popular clinic. Gregg Garrett has taught the Moving Shooters, Moving Target clinics for the last two years and he decided to offer this clinic in response to many shooters' request. In all likelihood, this clinic will be fully booked very early in the registration process, so get your registration forum in quickly. Limit: 15 students

Ladies Only: General Pistol Skills & Drills [Instructor - Donna Vandermolen]

This clinic has been offered every for the last two years and it has always been a perennial favorite with the ladies. Donna paces the clinic to match the skill and experience level of her students. The clinic will include some instruction on the basics of pistol shooting, but it will then move into more advanced drills and techniques. Limit: 15 students

Introduction to IDPA Competition [Instructor - Steve Vandermolen]

This clinic is an overview of the sport of International Defensive Pistol Association (IDPA) shooting. Steve covers IDPA rules, competitive tactics and issues and provides hands-on experience shooting typical IDPA-style scenarios. Limit: 15 students
Mini-Clinics (45 minutes); Limit 6 students:

Basics: Proper grip, trigger control, sight alignment & picture [Instructor - Eric Achord]

The basic skills covered in this mini-clinic were previously part of a full 2-hour shooting clinic. As with all mini-clinics, the Basics mini-clinic will be offered three times during the day and will focus on the fundamentals of good shooting. Until the proper grip, trigger control and sight alignment and picture are mastered, any attempt to learn more advanced shooting and engagement tactics is premature. This mini-clinic is perfect for the beginning shooter, but it's also a very good tune-up for experienced shooters who may have developed some bad habits. Just as professional baseball players take batting practice, even the most experienced shooters should periodically spend a little time on the basics.

Drawing and Engaging [Jim Duncan]

Focus will be on basic drawing and initial engagement of a threat target. The goal of this mini-clinic is to help students master the skill of quickly and safely drawing their handgun and firing the first one or two defensive shots. Equally important is learning to safely reholster without the muzzle sweeping any part of your body, or innocent bystanders. As with most skills, repetition is the key to developing a smooth, fast, safe draw stroke and this is equally true for reholstering. Special note: Bring a holster that allows for one-handed reholstering! Holsters that "close up" when the pistol is drawn will invariably result in the shooter putting their hand/fingers at risk when they reholster.

Purses & Fanny Packs [Instructor - Marc Gentine]

Much like the Drawing and Engaging mini-clinic, focus will be on drawing, initial engagement and "reholstering" of a handgun from purses and fanny packs. These popular methods of carrying a defensive handgun present special safety and tactical issues not present when carrying a handgun in a belt holster or inside the waistband holster (IWB). If you are interested in this mini-clinic, be sure the handgun you bring is appropriately sized for the purse or fanny pack you will use. Special note: Although it is not required, it is strongly recommended that you use a true holster purse with a separate compartment for securing your pistol. It is also recommended that the purse be a side-access rather than top-access purse. If the purse you use doesn't have these features, don't hesitate to take the mini-clinic with it.

Speed Reloading [Instructor - J.P. Guidry]

Empty guns in a gunfight are not bad luck or poor planning, they are just a fact of life. For years there has been an on-going discussion about "round counting" to prevent running your gun dry. However, real-life experience proves very few if any people are capable of doing this when they are the victim of a deadly encounter. This mini-clinic will teach students techniques for performing fast and secure reloads, both when the gun runs dry, or as a tactical reload before the pistol goes to slide lock. This mini-clinic covers speed reloading of semi-autos only -- not revolvers.

Malfunction Drills [Instructor - Jason Hall]

Learning proper techniques for clearing stoppages and diligently practicing those techniques is somewhat like weeding the flower beds. It has to be done, but finding excuses not to do it is quite easy. Students will learn and practice techniques for clearing the three most common causes of malfunctions in semi-automatic pistols: improperly seated magazines, "stove pipes," and the dreaded "double-feed." Focus will be on the use of gross motor skills in these drills, as fine motor skills will be greatly diminished, perhaps nonexistent, during a fight for your life.

Retention Shooting & Withdrawal [Instructor - Ed Williams]

Focus will be on drawing and firing on a threat target from "kissing close" distances. Many if not most violent attacks on innocent victims occur at close range where it is either impossible or imprudent to draw and extend the shooting arm(s). Also covered is withdrawing or "getting out of the hole" while delivering effective fire on your attacker as you retreat. This mini-clinic was designed to address the challenges of dealing with a deadly attack that experience shows will most likely be quick, close and violent. Learning the skills necessary to deal with such threats is critical, but equally important is learning one's limitations. "I think I can make this shot" is a deadly outlook; learn what you can realistically do under pressure.

Engaging Multiple Targets [Instructor - G.C. Montgomery]

Whether shooting in competition, defending yourself or another person, or simply trying look really good to your girlfriend or boyfriend, effectively and consistently engaging multiple targets is a skill that should be mastered. Competitive shooting in IDPA or USPSA matches always involves shooting at multiple targets. Unfortunately, recent FBI studies indicate that well over 60% violent attacks involve multiple assailants and this includes both home invasion burglaries and assaults on the street. This mini-clinic covers techniques for quickly and effectively engaging multiple threat targets. The natural tendency is to simply point the gun at the 2nd threat and pull the trigger as fast as possible. The old adage that "you can't miss fast enough to win a gun fight applies equally to the 2nd, 3rd, or 10th assailant as to the first. This mini-clinic will give you the knowledge and drills to dramatically improve your multiple-threat engagement skills.

Shooting on the Move [Instructor - Tim Fisher]

Moving is as much a part of defensive shooting as pulling the trigger; at least it had better be if you want to survive. Many people who marvel at their shooting prowess when standing still shooting at a target that is equally still wonder "what happeded!?" when they are forced to shoot on the move. Subtle factors like shooting on cadence or letting one's feet determine when to pull the trigger are problems that can be overcome only by recognizing the issue and practicing proper engagement techniques while moving.

Cover & Concealment -- Proper Use [Instructor - Dave Cochran]

Proper use of cover and/or concealment can be the determining factors in surviving a deadly attack. As Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch says, "pie the corner, don't step out full-on stupid!" One might think that the proper use of cover/concealment is intuitive, but that is hardly the case. Experience has shown that our natural instincts about using cover/concealment are counterproductive. This mini-clinic will teach proper methods and techniques for using various types of cover/concealment, including the proper methods for approaching cover/concealment so as to minimize the tendency to make crucial mistakes. The skills learned can and should be practiced in your home with an unloaded gun.

Moving Targets [Instructor TBA]

Just as moving while shooting at an attacker is part of a gun fight, having to shoot at an assailant who simply will not cooperate and stand still for a moment is also part of a gun fight. Seriously though, except in close quarters fighting when attacker and victim have their hands on each other, it is highly likely that it will be necessary to engage a threat that is shooting while running. This mini-clinic will expose students to the difficulties of engaging a target that is moving, and it will provide solutions to this problem. Much of the answer to dealing with such attacks is mental attitude but the physical skill set for moving targets is different from engaging a static target.

Seminars:

Awareness [Speaker Steve Vandermolen]

This one hour seminar is not really a seminar on shooting. It is better described as a seminar on how to avoid having to shoot. After all, the best gun fight is the one you never had to fight! This informative, thought-provoking discussion is something everyone periodically needs to hear and Mr. Vandermolen makes it an enjoyable hour.

Ladies Issues [Speaker Donna Vandermolen]

Donna Vandermolen is an active competitor in IDPA matches and not just at local matches. She has competed many times in various state championships and the IDPA National Championships and she has earned many trophies and special recognition. She uses this experience to help her students in the several classes she teaches every year. Donna was also a California Highway Patrolman for many years before coming to Texas. Ms. Vandermolen has created a very popular seminar for ladies using her vast experience to address issues of special importance to women.

Christians, Weapons & Self-Defense [Speaker Marc Gentine]

This unique seminar delves into issues that many people find themselves addressing when they seriously consider owning and/or carrying a handgun for self-defense. Its purpose is not to evangelize, but to address concerns that some Christians may be grappling with by providing Scriptural answers to these issues.

TABC Laws & Procedures [Speaker Stephen Rothstein]

An issue commonly discussed on http://www.TexasCHLforum.com is how to determine if a given establishment is off-limits to Texas Concealed Handgun Licensees (CHLs), pursuant to Texas Penal Code §46.035(b)(1) that prohibits carrying a firearm in an establishment that derives 51% or more of its revenue from the sale of alcohol for on-premises consumption (a/k/a 51% locations). While the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code requires such locations to post a 51% sign, if the bar fails to do so, a CHL can still be prosecuted. Mr. Rothstein is with the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission and he is responsible for training their agents. He will explain how to determine if a location is truly off-limits to CHLs and he will address other issues such as the scope of the off-limits areas in locations that house several businesses under the same roof.

Training Opportunities (discussion of courses, schools & instructors available locally and nationwide) [Speaker Charles Cotton]

Everyone involved in shooting whether for sport or self-defense should take advantage of training opportunities that are within their budgets. This seminar discusses the various schools, instructors and courses available in Texas and throughout the country. The goal is to provide an overview of the types of training available in terms of the subject matter covered, length of the courses, location and course costs. Whether you have never fired a shot, or you are an accomplished shooter, this seminar is for you.

All Day Events

The following events will be on-going for all or most of the day. No registration is required for these specific events (overall registration is required) and people are invited to stop by and have fun.

Texas Stars (two)

The Texas Stars are always a crowd favorite. Each of the "stars" is a spoked wheel with five 8" plates at the end of each spoke. The object of the star is to shoot each of the five plates off the spoke before your opponent can clear the star. It's fun, it's challenging, it's frustrating and you'll be talking about how much fun it was for weeks.

Find the Gun for You [formerly Battlefield Pick-up]

This event will run for several hours, but not all day. The set up time prevents it from being available throughout the entire event. Several guns of various configurations and calibers will be available for shooting. A very generous offer by a local manufacturer has allowed us to make ammo available for sale. If you don't want to shoot a full 50 rd. box, then get with a friend and split the ammo. (We cannot sell partial boxes.) We will not make a profit on ammo sales; we will sell it for the price we have to pay. If you've been considering a new gun but would like to try it out first, this may well be your chance.

Plate Rack

The name is pretty self-explanatory. The two PSC plate racks will be available for shooting all day. The racks consist of 8" round plates, triangles, bowling pin-shaped steel, each with a resetting rope to eliminate the necessity of setting them up after each shooter. If you are concerned about not having to carry a bunch of ammo home, this is a great way to make sure you don't face that problem! Like the Texas Stars, the plate rack is a favorite for open shooting.
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Postby CainA » Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:19 pm

Charles, can you give the cost of participating in this event please, I may have missed it since I didn't read your post word for word.

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Postby Charles L. Cotton » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:10 pm

CainA wrote:Charles, can you give the cost of participating in this event please, I may have missed it since I didn't read your post word for word.

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We want to make it free, but that's probably not possible. We have to pay/guarantee the Bun-Stuffers for the number of people registered plus staff and we have to pay a non-member fee to PSC for everyone who is not a PSC member. This has been paid, or at least subsidized, out of the IDPA match fund, but we can't keep doing that.

The fee will probably be in the $20 to $30 range.

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Postby pbwalker » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:20 pm

any opportunities for those not giving any instruction to volunteer with anything? Clean-up, setup, 'gopher', etc.?
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Postby Charles L. Cotton » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:51 pm

pbwalker wrote:any opportunities for those not giving any instruction to volunteer with anything? Clean-up, setup, 'gopher', etc.?


You bet there is! Thanks for asking. When we get a schedule set, we'll post a list of volunteers we need.

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Postby MTICop » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:22 pm

Date change doesn't matter. I'm still counting the days. Thanks again to Charles and all others who put on this great event.
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Postby SlowDave » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:14 am

I'm gonna ask the stupid question: what does "PSC" stand for? It sounds very interesting, but it's a good piece of drive from San Antonio. Doubt I'll realistically make it, but there's a chance. Sounds very cool, so would be great if I could make it.

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Postby Charles L. Cotton » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:24 am

SlowDave wrote:I'm gonna ask the stupid question: what does "PSC" stand for? It sounds very interesting, but it's a good piece of drive from San Antonio. Doubt I'll realistically make it, but there's a chance. Sounds very cool, so would be great if I could make it.


PSC Shooting Club, a membership range in Friendswood, about 30 miles south of downtown Houston. I hope you can make it.

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Postby Charles L. Cotton » Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:34 am

Update on event fee:

We are going to have lunch catered by a local Mexican food restaurant that catered lunch for a recent PSC "workday." It was excellent and we should be able to get a per person price that will let us greatly reduce the event fee. Pending PSC Board approval to waive the non-member fee, we plan to reduce the fee to $15 and this will include lunch.

I will be able to confirm the event fee within the next ten days or so.

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Postby Skiprr » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:58 pm

Charles L. Cotton wrote:We are going to have lunch catered by a local Mexican food restaurant that catered lunch for a recent PSC "workday."

A very big thumbs-up on the quality of food, the quantity of food, and the service from the PSC "workday"! This is a family-owned restaurant that has, if I remember correctly, three locations. And either I was much hungrier than usual (hard to imagine), or the food was extremely good.

The Bun Stuffers are great but, especially if this lowers the cost, I don't think you'll hear anything but applause, Charles. Good call!

SlowDave, this has been going on annually--well, except for 2008 and Hurricane Ike--for a while, and it gets better every year. Once reservations begin to be accepted, many of the classes, seminars, and mini-clinics will fill up quickly. Folks regularly travel from Dallas, the Hill Country, and some even from West Texas and the Panhandle to attend. It's like a full day (and maybe even a seminar and get-together the evening before) of professional training combined with a shooting carnival combined with a meet-and-greet of old and new friends. I don't know of anything like it anywhere. There are reasonably-priced hotels and motels in the area, making an overnighter very practical.


On a different matter, I have to point to myself and offer a big, public laugh. I posted previously about statistical rain/wind probabilities comparing September and April in south Houston. My stats showed April was the better month to plan an event.

So right after the TexasCHLforum Day at PSC was literally blown away last September by Hurricane Ike, the very next April goes on record as the wettest April ever based on rainfall at Hobby Airport. So wet, in fact, that just three of April's rainy days made up the Harris/Galveston/Brazoria drought deficit for the entire year. :shock:

So if I ever provide weather advice again, be very suspicious.

And I will not utter the words "swine flu" lest I jinx next October...
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Postby gwashorn » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:46 pm

I am a new member to the PSC but glad to see this event and opportunity coming our way. Can't wait. OH, as for weather, what do you expect? It is South Texas where if you don't like it, stick around it changes...... ALL THE TIME!

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Postby kthxtn » Mon May 04, 2009 10:41 pm

Charles,

This event sounds wonderful. Being a fairly new member of PSC with little experience with guns, my wife and I plan to attend to gain more knowledge and experience. I would like to volunteer to help out with the event as a way to contribute to PSC. While I have little experienc with guns, I am quite experience with photography and would love to "shoot" the event if such services are desired.

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Postby Charles L. Cotton » Tue May 05, 2009 10:53 am

kthxtn wrote:Charles,

This event sounds wonderful. Being a fairly new member of PSC with little experience with guns, my wife and I plan to attend to gain more knowledge and experience. I would like to volunteer to help out with the event as a way to contribute to PSC. While I have little experience with guns, I am quite experience with photography and would love to "shoot" the event if such services are desired.

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Thanks for the offer and we'd love to have you photograph the event!

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Postby neilp » Wed May 06, 2009 11:13 pm

I just saw this post for the first time. This sounds like "Must not miss" event so I will make every effort to attend whatever the date. It looks like a great opportunity for learning and some fun!

A question: I have a 12 year old son. He goes to the range with me so he is aware of safety rules etc. Are kids his age welcome?

I appreciate the opportunity to educate myself that this board offers. This event sounds like another one. Thanks for your time and effort on both. It seems rare in today's world that anyone makes these kind of contributions to society.

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