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I take quality over quantity anytime. If I need a gun for self defense I want to have peace of mind and know it is reliable. Regular cleaning, inspecting and shooting at the range will tell if a gun is reliable. If it is a cheap gun and reliable it is a good choice, if it is just cheap I'd say it should be disposed to make sure it doesn't get into the hands of a criminal or mentally ill person.
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I think you have made a good deal.
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Can’t go wrong with that Ruger. Those are reliable solid guns. They may not be the prettiest but they work.
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While those two are not my favorite, I would still look at them as decent guns and not just cheap. Want to talk cheap guns, you could buy three HiPoints just about for the price of that Ruger
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I still have my KP-89, first handgun I owned, very accurate. Can't bring myself to sell it even though I rarely take it to the range.cmgee67 wrote:Can’t go wrong with that Ruger. Those are reliable solid guns. They may not be the prettiest but they work.
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There is a difference between cheap and inexpensive. Those are both decent reliable guns. Ruger makes great quality solid guns. Rossi USA has worked hard to overcome the lower quality of the firearms that were produced in Brazil originally. So, I would not be afraid of owning and shooting either of those, and would probably take a two to one choice.
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Anyone have an opinion on the Taurus PT111 G2? It was so cheap it came with a free revolver. I'm not terribly impressed with the action, but it fires every time I pull the trigger. Just wondering if anyone else has any experience with it.
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I wound not mind that Taurus as a range or a truck gun. Not a primary ccw though. Their revolvers are far better in quality.
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No. If price were my only consideration, then maybe. I would rather carry one pistol that meets my needs than two less expensive pistols that do not meet my needs.
I am not familiar with the Rossi, but I don't want to carry a revolver. I have some familiarity with Ruger and like their quality and customer service.
However, the P95 is a DA/SA pistol. My first pistol, which I still have and shoot, is a Tanfoglio BTA-90, DA/SA, 9mm. After carrying it for 3 years, I decided that the disadvantages of carrying a DA/SA pistol as my every day carry were too great for me.
My wife replaced her Ruger LCR .38 with a Walther PPS M2 LE. Meets her needs.
I want to carry a full-size, long sight radius, high capacity, American made, striker fired, modern auto-loading pistol. While I could carry my wife's LCR and my BTA-90, I find that the S&W M&P Mod 2.0, 9mm, 5inch, meets all my personal criteria. I shoot it well and carry it daily. Got it new for $450 + $15 FFL.
One reliable pistol that meets all my needs. One manual of arms. Works for me. Your mileage will vary.
I am not familiar with the Rossi, but I don't want to carry a revolver. I have some familiarity with Ruger and like their quality and customer service.
However, the P95 is a DA/SA pistol. My first pistol, which I still have and shoot, is a Tanfoglio BTA-90, DA/SA, 9mm. After carrying it for 3 years, I decided that the disadvantages of carrying a DA/SA pistol as my every day carry were too great for me.
My wife replaced her Ruger LCR .38 with a Walther PPS M2 LE. Meets her needs.
I want to carry a full-size, long sight radius, high capacity, American made, striker fired, modern auto-loading pistol. While I could carry my wife's LCR and my BTA-90, I find that the S&W M&P Mod 2.0, 9mm, 5inch, meets all my personal criteria. I shoot it well and carry it daily. Got it new for $450 + $15 FFL.
One reliable pistol that meets all my needs. One manual of arms. Works for me. Your mileage will vary.
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I have one that stays in my truck. Not my favorite but it always works. Got it directly from Taurus as replacement for a recalled model.Pritchical wrote:Anyone have an opinion on the Taurus PT111 G2? It was so cheap it came with a free revolver. I'm not terribly impressed with the action, but it fires every time I pull the trigger. Just wondering if anyone else has any experience with it.
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I shot one of my friends PT111 and actually liked it. Any gun is good if it is maintained and taken care for. Inexpensive doesn't mean bad quality and expensive doesn't mean reliability either.Pritchical wrote:Anyone have an opinion on the Taurus PT111 G2? It was so cheap it came with a free revolver. I'm not terribly impressed with the action, but it fires every time I pull the trigger. Just wondering if anyone else has any experience with it.
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I might be mistaken, so I don’t want to make a big deal about it, but I have a memory (which at my age could be imagined ) of a thread someone posted a while back here about their PT111 G2 that had some kind of major function issue....like it wouldn’t fire at all, or it would fire when it wasn’t supposed to. I really don’t remember the details, but it might be worth doing a search for mention of that model in threads of less than 1 year old.Pritchical wrote:Anyone have an opinion on the Taurus PT111 G2? It was so cheap it came with a free revolver. I'm not terribly impressed with the action, but it fires every time I pull the trigger. Just wondering if anyone else has any experience with it.
It might yield information about what to be wary of, or what you can do to fix it if it happens to you.
Edited to add.... I just found that thread from last May: viewtopic.php?f=23&t=88291&p=1142160&hi ... 2#p1142160
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I have a Rossi almost exactly like that bought probably early 90's. Never had a problem shooting it. Only thing I found is it did not like aluminium cased ammo they did not want to fall out easily after fired.
Mine is does not have a fully covered ejector rod like yours has. And still has the wooden grips. I keep thinking I want to go find some new grips for it
Mine is does not have a fully covered ejector rod like yours has. And still has the wooden grips. I keep thinking I want to go find some new grips for it
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I don't know much about revolvers or Rossi, but I have owned a P95 and even qualified with it a couple of times. It shoots well and can be trusted to go bang every time. I have a couple of other more expensive handguns, but I don't shoot any of them better, nor trust any gun more. This all being said it's not everyone's cup of tea. Long DA trigger, heavy, and not very pretty. I won't ever get rid of it.
I don't know much about revolvers or Rossi, but I have owned a P95 and even qualified with it a couple of times. It shoots well and can be trusted to go bang every time. I have a couple of other more expensive handguns, but I don't shoot any of them better, nor trust any gun more. This all being said it's not everyone's cup of tea. Long DA trigger, heavy, and not very pretty. I won't ever get rid of it.
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