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srothstein wrote: ↑Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:00 pm I am no longer sure this is a plot against the president nearly as much as a plot against the country. I cannot think of any reason that the election fraud would have been so blatant and the media so strident in denying it other than they want to start the revolt and break the country up. The riots did not do it and have mostly calmed down. The anti-police movement backfired because too many of the general public still like the police. This election was rigged and there were too many documented cases of votes being changed by the machines that were explained as a "glitch" in the system. If there is a glitch in one copy of the software, then everyone using that software needs to do a manual recount of the votes but the courts did not order it. The people doing this have been prepping the population for it for a while talking about how the election would be stolen and how Trump would not cede power. They were truly planting the seeds for both sides to argue that the election was rigged if their man lost. Now that has happened and the side with the most capability to stage an armed revolt is upset.

For years, we have been saying it was too late to save the country but too early to start the shooting. I believe the election fraud was designed to push us closer to that point. This is not about who is in power (the nation survived for over 200 years with both conservatives and liberals in power) but more about will we have a nation in the future. Look at the rural counties in Oregon and in California wanting to secede (well in Oregon they are going further than in California and have a better chance of success IMO, but northern California was saying the same thing). The divide is getting greater and is going to push us into a civil war, probably sooner than we think. And that is what this is about, IMO. I just do not understand the logic of why yet.