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powerboatr wrote: ↑Wed Dec 29, 2021 10:42 pm sealing the records is pure protection for the pervs clinton and others, judges, etc

she should spill the beans

I don't think anything would come of it. It would be just her talking, and would be depicted as her trying to get a reduced sentence.

One girl witness testified that she was forced to have sex with Prince Andrew three times. He denied it, of course, and of course there was utterly no evidence. So that story just fizzled. There's no hard evidence - no videos of Bill and Hillary giggling in their birthday suits with some 15 year old cheerleader (how's that for a mental image).

They have smoking guns, but they're all in that sealed evidence. Will the last one to leave the room please turn out the lights....

Addendum: the judge sealed "all records related to this case." what the heck...................

What was Count 2?

Good point though, about her being a patsy. Not that she's innocent, but that the various bigwigs that participated will never be touched in court. Have ANY witnesses named one of these guys in an interview or testimony?

The DA praised the girls for having the courage to step forward and their "willingness to face their abuser." But that's not true: they didn't face their abusers. Their abusers are still walking free.

There's a ray of hope, though..... if Ghislaine does get a long sentence in prison, she may very well get even by baring a list of Epstein's customers. That would ruffle a few feathers.

Yeah, we've never actually seen a "smoking gun" in this case - no pictures of a famous politician with a naked kid sitting on his lap, something like that. It's all just he said, she said, and some circumstancial evidence such as plane trips.

Too bad so much of this is just "he said, she said, they said...." There's really not much in the way of a smoking gun. Somebody needs to come up with a picture or video of some celebrity or politician with a half-naked little girl in his lap, something like that, and spread it all over the place. There's so much that's just talk, it'll never amount to anything.