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by Jaguar
Mon May 13, 2013 1:39 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)
Replies: 82
Views: 8609

Re: Support HB972 - not a dud!

GEM-Texas wrote:I'm sorry but if for faculty and staff - you can be terminated for carry, it effectively negates legal carry. If you were fired for such as a faculty member, you could kiss getting another academic job good-bye.

A life-long career is ruined. That's a mighty effective sanction. With or without signs makes little difference for the faculty/staff member.

It's nice that visitors might be able to carry. But that isn't not a giant breakthrough for the people who spend most time on campus. The visitor doesn't have to go to campus. Fac/staff do.


Will it lead to change later - that's an interesting question. As I said before, the reasonable restriction of letting anitgun administrators make that restriction will probably take away the impetus for further legislative action.
Again, welcome to the same boat the majority of employees in the state of Texas are in. If I were to carry at my work and it was found out, I would be fired and my life-long career ruined, no one in industry would touch me for being fired for violation of company policies.

Yet, if you came to the plant where I work and gained permission to enter, and walked in carrying two 1911’s and a 3AT backup you would be just fine. If someone saw your weapon(s), at worst they could ask you to leave, at best it would be me and I’d start a conversation about how the heck you carry so much steel around.

Contrast that with if I went to visit a university building carrying and was found out… instant third degree felony.

I am not saying the bill is perfect but it would go a long way to the target. If a university in Texas allowed faculty, staff and students to carry, I - along with a bunch of people here - would consider that school above the anti-gun schools. I bet a bunch of pro-2A educators would look to move there as well.
by Jaguar
Thu May 09, 2013 1:53 pm
Forum: 2013 Texas Legislative Session
Topic: Update: Support HB972 - debate tomorrow (5/14)
Replies: 82
Views: 8609

Re: Support HB972 - not a dud!

If this passes and makes it so carry is not against the law, yet against university policy, staff and students will be in the same boat as thousands, if not tens of thousands other Texans who work in places where company policy prohibits carry but the business is not posted 30.06 so anyone can walk in carrying.

Present company included. :tiphat:

It is better than being against the law IMHO.

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