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by The_Busy_Mom
Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:16 am
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??
Replies: 33
Views: 11094

Re: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??

sjfcontrol wrote:
The_Busy_Mom wrote:
switch wrote:I talked w/my buddy. He did not have any trouble getting in w/Shoot Smart. Might want to talk to them again.

I don't understand why ranges will not let outside instructors come in. We are going to bring them new customers. If the customer likes the range, they are likely to come back.

Elk Castle will not let me qualify my students but said their instructors would for $15 (which is a steal - range fees are normally $17 - 20 at other ranges).
I would LOVE to know how he managed to get into Shoot Smart. I have qualified students there before, but I try to be very low key, and only on the private lanes. A few months back, they were hiring a CHL instructor, and I went to talk with the manager about what value I might be able to bring to their operation. I had already been told that they don't allow outside instructors, so I thought I might just contract out my CHL services to them. Not even close. You have to become an employee, which I would have done had there not been other issues. You have to teach their curriculum, and you cannot teach within a 30-mile radius of their store. I totally get their side of the story - this is their business, reputation, etc. Just wasn't what I was looking for. But this was long after I had been told no outside instructors. So I will take small groups there, like 1-4 students, but big groups go to either Quail Creek or Eagle Gun Range in Lewisville. I have taken probably 20-30 students to qualify at ShootSmart over the last year, and not 1 of them had even been into that particular range before. So it's free advertising for ShootSmart, they are still making money, and I get to qualify my students. Seems like it would be a win/win for all involved, but the great thing about America is that they can choose to set their own rules and run their own operation. Capitalism at its finest!!

:txflag: TBM
Couple of questions...

So, Eagle Gun Range in Lewisville allows outside instructors? I emailed them a couple of months back to see if that would be possible, and got no response (which I took as a 'NO').

ShootSmart doesn't allow outside instructors, so you only bring small groups there? Umm, wouldn't that be morally -- questionable?
If you want the contact for Eagle, let me know and I will get you his email address.

I am still a member at ShootSmart, and I still have the ability to bring in 4 guests with my membership. I think what ShootSmart really wants is to limit the number of people being brought in at one time. I taught a big class the other day, and had one guy who needed to leave before he shot the qualification. So we made arrangements to shoot at ShootSmart the next day. The RSO knew exactly what I was doing, so maybe ShootSmart isn't as hardcore now as they used to be. After all, a post above said his friend got in. And maybe they are now seeing that ShootSmart can capitalize on outside students. We can hope, anyway......

:txflag: TBM
by The_Busy_Mom
Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:51 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??
Replies: 33
Views: 11094

Re: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??

switch wrote:I talked w/my buddy. He did not have any trouble getting in w/Shoot Smart. Might want to talk to them again.

I don't understand why ranges will not let outside instructors come in. We are going to bring them new customers. If the customer likes the range, they are likely to come back.

Elk Castle will not let me qualify my students but said their instructors would for $15 (which is a steal - range fees are normally $17 - 20 at other ranges).
I would LOVE to know how he managed to get into Shoot Smart. I have qualified students there before, but I try to be very low key, and only on the private lanes. A few months back, they were hiring a CHL instructor, and I went to talk with the manager about what value I might be able to bring to their operation. I had already been told that they don't allow outside instructors, so I thought I might just contract out my CHL services to them. Not even close. You have to become an employee, which I would have done had there not been other issues. You have to teach their curriculum, and you cannot teach within a 30-mile radius of their store. I totally get their side of the story - this is their business, reputation, etc. Just wasn't what I was looking for. But this was long after I had been told no outside instructors. So I will take small groups there, like 1-4 students, but big groups go to either Quail Creek or Eagle Gun Range in Lewisville. I have taken probably 20-30 students to qualify at ShootSmart over the last year, and not 1 of them had even been into that particular range before. So it's free advertising for ShootSmart, they are still making money, and I get to qualify my students. Seems like it would be a win/win for all involved, but the great thing about America is that they can choose to set their own rules and run their own operation. Capitalism at its finest!!

:txflag: TBM
by The_Busy_Mom
Mon Jan 06, 2014 5:40 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??
Replies: 33
Views: 11094

Re: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??

cheezit wrote:
The_Busy_Mom wrote:
cheezit wrote:You try the rangs off 35w and 28th street?
That is The Shooter's Club. Their range is only 10 yards, so it doesn't meet the standard to be able to shoot the last round of the qualification. Many moons ago, you could use a different/modified target if space was an issue, but this is no longer the case.

:txflag: TBM
I did my class and qualifying there. The guy doing the class was a leo that I had run accross prior. He/they got some form of acception
I hope that your qualification wasn't recent. I have a feeling the guy got in trouble with the CHL gods because I went in there last week to talk about qualifying students, before I was aware of the length of the lanes, and the guy running the counter was all incognito about what was going on with CHL quals. CHL class isn't offered on their website anymore, either. And I know that the auditors are out in force around these parts. I don't know what exception he might have gotten, other than the modified target because of distance that was formerly an OK practice, but that practice certainly isn't OK now. Haven't heard back from him on the outcome of whatever he was trying to work out with DPS.

:txflag: TBM
by The_Busy_Mom
Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:46 pm
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??
Replies: 33
Views: 11094

Re: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??

cheezit wrote:You try the rangs off 35w and 28th street?
That is The Shooter's Club. Their range is only 10 yards, so it doesn't meet the standard to be able to shoot the last round of the qualification. Many moons ago, you could use a different/modified target if space was an issue, but this is no longer the case.

:txflag: TBM
by The_Busy_Mom
Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:28 am
Forum: Instructors' Corner
Topic: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??
Replies: 33
Views: 11094

Re: Range Rental - North Fort Worth ??

Yeah, good luck with that one. I have been trying to find a range local to use as well. I am in NE Fort Worth - Keller/Watauga area. Quail Creek is the closest range who will allow outside CHL instructors to come in and qualify students. Shoot Smart will run you off with a pitchfork. Eagle Gun Range in Lewisville is where I taught the majority of my classes/qualification. But you have to qualify your students before the range opens, usually between 8am and 9am. I was finding that if I didn't teach the class there, I was meeting my students there without being able to fully go over all the safety aspects of shooting at a range. And when you have students that have never fired a pistol before (yes, every class I have taught has had a student or 2 like this), my nerves always seemed to be on edge. So I started teaching classes, and shooting the qualification at Quail Creek. But at Quail Creek, you are at the mercy of the weather.

My husband has talked with a couple of instructors over the last year who are in the same boat. We had, at one time, thought about trying to get a group of instructors and open a shooting club with a few lanes. And ANY instructor would be able to become a member and use the range to qualify their students. But no one seems to want to pony up funds. So we continue to look for our dream space to open an indoor range and build capital for said dream.

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