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Ultra_Solo_Sig_0904 wrote:

Grillmark55 wrote:

Ultra_Solo_Sig_0904 wrote:

Grillmark55 wrote: I know that there are plenty of people who like to be "in your face" with their gun rights, but in gun-grabbing climate these days, I don't see that as an affective argument for persuading gun-grabbers that we have the right to bear arms.

that is exactly the problem, why do we have to PERSUADE anybody that we HAVE RIGHTS?????

I agree with you 100% - we shouldn't have to fight to keep what has already been given to us - and defended with blood and precious lives. Unfortunately, there are too many simple-minded people in Washington and State Governments who are afraid of guns, and their message - as wrong and hateful as it is - is getting out and persuading people that guns, and honest people with guns, are evil. Why add fuel to their fire?

It still puzzles me (sort of) that NOT ONE of these trolls in DC or New York or California has the guts to stand up and say that gangs and ILLEGAL gun possession is the problem and that keeping guns in the hands of RESPONSIBLE gun owners IS a solution.

thats true, and after reading it again it may have come off as jumping on you and that wasn't my intent. the intent was trying to state an obvious problem. They will never admit the REAL problems in society that need to be tackled because that isn't their intent. guns themselves are only a small portion to do with the big picture. they want to control society as a whole with 100% gubberment.

Ultra_Solo_Sig_0904 wrote:

Grillmark55 wrote: I know that there are plenty of people who like to be "in your face" with their gun rights, but in gun-grabbing climate these days, I don't see that as an affective argument for persuading gun-grabbers that we have the right to bear arms.

that is exactly the problem, why do we have to PERSUADE anybody that we HAVE RIGHTS?????

I agree with you 100% - we shouldn't have to fight to keep what has already been given to us - and defended with blood and precious lives. Unfortunately, there are too many simple-minded people in Washington and State Governments who are afraid of guns, and their message - as wrong and hateful as it is - is getting out and persuading people that guns, and honest people with guns, are evil. Why add fuel to their fire?

It still puzzles me (sort of) that NOT ONE of these trolls in DC or New York or California has the guts to stand up and say that gangs and ILLEGAL gun possession is the problem and that keeping guns in the hands of RESPONSIBLE gun owners IS a solution.

That would probably be one of those instances where I either 1) didn't go into the theater (or other place of business) or 2) take my firearm back to my vehicle, lock it up and go in.

There have been several times that I think "I'm going to carry anyway because the sign is the wrong size; has a spelling error; is hidden behind a stack of merchandise outside a store (not in plain sight); isn't contrasting colors". Then the other voice says "OK, and if you DO get caught, you are going to enjoy a ride in a cop car, you are going to have to inconvenience your wife by having her follow you to the station, you are going to have to hire a lawyer - and a really good one since the excuses you used may or may not get you off depending on the judge that you go before, if you DO loose your case, you have lost your CHL and you will never have to make that decision again".

I know that some people may say "Quit worrying so much and just exercise your right, you won't get caught", but I tend to think that I would rather follow the intent of the law in these instances and KEEP my CHL AND firearms. I know that there are plenty of people who like to be "in your face" with their gun rights, but in gun-grabbing climate these days, I don't see that as an affective argument for persuading gun-grabbers that we have the right to bear arms.