Trust me, my comments were aimed at Administrators, Registrars, Finance, Advisers, Deans and Vice-Presidents. I have had no problem with Professor's.koine2002 wrote:Yes, I meant "can." Thanks. I fixed it.baldeagle wrote:I assume you meant CAN second your lament.koine2002 wrote:As a professor, I cannot second your lament of the bureaucratic nonsense that happens at colleges and universities. It used to be that the faculty were the schools and the fundamental governing body. However, the USDE, through requirements hoisted upon the recognized accreditors (to keep their USDE recognition), have placed levels upon levels of non-academic bureaucracy over the last 40 years.
While we, as a guild, are known for being leftists nuts, I can guarantee you that is not the case. It's just they are the loudest. There are plenty of gun loving profs out there. If faculty were still the primary governing body of colleges and universities, I can almost guarantee you that there would be very few GFZs on campuses.
There's actually a bit of a revival of Libertarian type thinking, at least in the non-economic areas, among academics in the US. We are quite alarmed at what is happening in the UK and Canada in terms of government censorship and speech as it has implications for our academic freedom (the freedom to pursue any line of inquiry regardless of where it may lead). It began, ironically, with Mr. Marxist, Noam Chomsky, himself in his protest of fellow academics being jailed in Europe for merely asking the question about the accuracy of Holocaust numbers. Many are now applying their newly acquired libertarianesque thinking to other areas such as self-defense. You won't find this published (as it would be academic suicide at this point), but I've found this in conversations with colleagues all around the country at symposia, society meetings, and other types of "tweed and bow tie" gatherings.
It warms the cockles of my heart to read what you've written. I've been wondering for some time now where the champions of free speech were with all the speech codes and attempted suppression of speech going on these days, especially on college campuses. Maybe there's hope for us yet.
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- Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:24 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
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- Wed Jun 03, 2015 3:27 pm
- Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
- Topic: SB11 & HB910 This week....
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Re: SB11 & HB910 This week....
My take on SB11
I am 64 yrs old, a chl instructor and a full time college student. My wife, daughter and granddaughter are also college students. In 3 yrs attending college, after 45 yrs in the business world, I have found that going to class, studying, writing essay's, and taking exams is the easy part. The hard part is dealing with the bureaucratic nonsense and incompetence of the administration. I have done very well academically, so no sour grapes here.
I have zero confidence the college administrators will even attempt to do the right thing. This law takes effect 8/1/16 for 4 year public university's 5 months before the start of 2017 Legislative session. It takes effect for community colleges 8/1/2017, 2 months after the 2017 Legislative session. There is little chance enough data will be available to justify corrections until at least the 2019 session.
I will wait hopefully and help where I can to make this better for future students and staff. I do not feel we got anywhere near 80% of what we wanted, more like 8%.
I am 64 yrs old, a chl instructor and a full time college student. My wife, daughter and granddaughter are also college students. In 3 yrs attending college, after 45 yrs in the business world, I have found that going to class, studying, writing essay's, and taking exams is the easy part. The hard part is dealing with the bureaucratic nonsense and incompetence of the administration. I have done very well academically, so no sour grapes here.
I have zero confidence the college administrators will even attempt to do the right thing. This law takes effect 8/1/16 for 4 year public university's 5 months before the start of 2017 Legislative session. It takes effect for community colleges 8/1/2017, 2 months after the 2017 Legislative session. There is little chance enough data will be available to justify corrections until at least the 2019 session.
I will wait hopefully and help where I can to make this better for future students and staff. I do not feel we got anywhere near 80% of what we wanted, more like 8%.