If you want to follow his advice then there is no law against it. People follow bad advice all the time and that is just what it is. That is my opinion, but you know what they say about opinions. The best way to handle a traffic stop is the way every LEO, that I know, recommends the instructor teach it in the LTC course. Which, simply put, is: 1. Turn off engine and at least partially roll down window, 2. place hands where they can be seen, 3. if at night turn on dome light, 4. Follow the lawful instructions given by the LEO during a traffic stop. 5. Do not vary from the instructions given you without first communicating to the LEO the reason and getting permission to do so.lonestar144 wrote:There is a difference in fumbling around the vehicle and merely opening glove box, center console, etc getting the proper documentation ready for the officer when he reaches you. I have my insurance on the visor for easier reach. My chl instructor was an ex LEO, currently a security guard and self defense instructor, he advised us to do as what I posted earlier.twomillenium wrote:Huh???? Don't you think the LEO can see you fumbling around before he gets to your car? The LEO has no idea what you are doing! Place you hands on the steering wheel and proceed with the exact legal instructions the LEO will give you. I assure you the LEO will be much more appreciative of those actions instead of trying to figure out what you are doing as he approaches and whether or not he is in danger.lonestar144 wrote:Before LEO gets to your car, have your DL, LTC and insurance in hand with your hands on steering wheel. This will prevent any misunderstandings that might arise if you start grabbing for stuff after officer has approached the vehicle.
Example:
Couple days ago, my daughter told me a story of how her teacher, which is a LTC holder, did have his DL and LTC license already available. Officer asked if he was carrying, he said yes and where on his person it was located. Guess what, his insurance was in center console, right next to where he was carrying. When he went for the insurance and officer knew the firearm was in the same location where he was reaching and officer drew his pistol. Ended up being a longer ordeal than what it should have been.
Conclusion, be prepared and have documents placed for easy reach and have them ready for officer when he approaches the vehicle. Would be nice if other ex or current LEO's here would chime in a give their suggestions.
I have also found that even if the LEO seems rude your kind demeanor will almost always change the LEO's demeanor in your favor. Unless you are barreling through a school zone, for some reason that really tends to PO most LEOs.
