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Russell wrote:If I were to wish for law changes for Christmas, I would wish for:

* Remove most unnecessary arbitrary restrictions. Racetracks, sporting events, amusement parks.... Remove enhanced penalties for certain areas posted 30.06/30.07 - Everything should be a Class C.

* Just to reiterate, REMOVE the arbitrary restrictions from 46.03/46.035! That way we don't have the crud that's happening with the Dallas Zoo, where it's owned by a governmental entity but can still post 30.06/30.07 because it's an "amusement park" which is listed under 46.035 (https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/fi ... as_Zoo.pdf). This makes me angry if you can't tell.

* Add legal penalties for posting a 30.06/30.07 sign on a business that you do not have authority to post signage for.
* Remove 51% restrictions. It is already illegal to be intoxicated and carrying, there's no need to have an additional invisible barrier if you plan on being at a sports bar to watch the game with buddies but not drink. There's nothing wrong with that.
* Require AG to issue signage rulings within a certain time frame. (I saw 60 days being floated around? That sounds good to me)
* Add individual legal ramifications for a government official posting signage that has been ruled against by the AG. If you require the wasting of government resources in order to make you/your office follow the law, the state should be able to recover those costs from the official responsible.

* Add liability for businesses that post 30.06/30.07 signage. If a patron that has an LTC on your property is robbed/injured and you had 30.06/30.07 signage up, you are responsible for their damages. I know that this is going to be very problematic to get passed, and language may need to be softened or made more generic, but hey this is a wish list right?

I agree with all and they are already on the original post in this thread! I think we can do most of it just by striking through some of 46.03, which you can see here:
viewtopic.php?f=142&t=86142

Added to OP:

EDIT 9/7/2016:
These ideas are added because of the AG opinion that gov'ts can't be held accountable for signs on their property that is posted by the private entity running their business or event on that property, and for the problem with the severe time delay for the fines for signs law.
Hold private entities accountable for posting unenforceable signs on government owned property.
Hold officials personally accountable for unenforceable/illegal 30.06/30.07/verbal notices on public property. We have already seen on numerous occasions that government officials have no problem spending tax dollars to keep their signs up.
Any license holder who is carrying and denied entry onto public property for an event will be owed money in damages from the gov't/institution who is refusing him entry.
Remove everything about amusement parks, hospitals/nursing homes, and churches/synagogues from 46.035.

TEX wrote:1. Two tier CHL system where an applicant can, after having had his original CHL LTC for 5 years with no infractions, and with additional training, tougher practical test, etc. would have a higher level of CHL that allows them to carry anywhere a police officer can carry.

Or we could just pass a bill similar to last year's HB308, where an LTC holder can carry anywhere an officer can. Eliminates time and cost to develop and make a program for an "enhanced" LTC, and lessens restrictions for all current LTC holders.

What I did like in one of the other threads, is that properties would have to apply with DPS for 30.06/30.07 signs that have some sort of official seal on them and the address for which they apply. In this manner, private property applies/gets signs easily if they wish, but signs that are intended to go on public property, especially for temporary events, would not be granted.

RoyGBiv wrote:If legislation akin to HB 308 (2015) still can't get enough support next year, would it be a step forward to consider something like an "Enhanced LTC", similar to ID and MS?

Not being able to carry in stadiums and schools is just ridiculous. Schools especially. It boggles the mind that anyone could think that a "no-guns in schools" law accomplishes anything more than creating a soft target and announcing it to the world. I can avoid stadiums, but I can't avoid schools.

I think with Open Carry passed, a HB308 type bill will get way more political capital (probably near all of it) as far as firearm laws in Texas goes. If that doesn't make it, neither would an enhanced ltc bill.

AJSully421 wrote:Change 46.03 and 46.035 to only include:

courtrooms while court is in session (Notice that "Court offices" is not included, not court houses... just the court rooms)

Specifically eliminate:
1. Schools (We are statistically more law abiding than the cops that roam the halls of the local elementary school, so why not? Also eliminates the "We are a school/daycare" zoo folks.
2. Polling places (No voter intimidation has happened by armed men on "our side", no reason to believe that it will start)
3. Racetracks (This one was stupid to begin with)
4. Bars - it is already illegal to be intoxicated and carry, so why not allow the designated driver to be armed?

Make any place that posts a 30.06/07 sign statutorily civilly liable for any and all injury resulting from an unlawful assault on their posted premises. Make them put their money where their irrational fear is.

I especially agree with these points Sully.

Anygun, I fully agree with your statement about being much less than 60 days, but what would the legislature approve? 10 days is probably not very "reasonable" to them.


I can update my OP with other good ideas so they are all on the first page.

Things I wish to see:

License Holders able to carry anywhere police can carry.

If that doesn't go through:
remove all power from TABC in regards to firearms - blue and red signs have no more legal weight.
Change "shoulder or belt holster" to "holster".
Class A misdemeanor if someone without authority posts 30.06 or 30.07 signs (MDA).
The Attorney General has 60 days to rule on 30.06 infractions.
30.07 added to fines for signs law.
Remove section from 46.035 that gives special rights to churches, amusement parks and hospitals (currently still get a class A for walking past legal sign)
Remove professional sporting events.
Clarify what a school is.
Holsters don't have to be on your person (steering column holster).
Constitutional Carry.

EDIT 2/25/16:
Things also stated in this thread:
Locations that take in any public funds (stadiums, hospitals etc.) are not enforceable, even if technically privately owned.
Licensed Carry in Schools allowed (this is better than defining a school! IMO).
Courtrooms are only off limits while court in session (court offices not off limits).
Allow carry in polling places and racetracks (why banned in the first place, especially racetracks?).
Any business that posts 30.06/30.07 is liable for damages in case of assault/theft/etc.

EDIT 5/5/16:
Businesses/properties have to apply with DPS for 30.06/30.07 signs that have some sort of official seal on them and the address for which they apply. In this manner, private property applies/gets signs easily if they wish, but signs that are intended to go on public property, especially for temporary events, would not be granted.

EDIT 9/7/2016:
These ideas are added because of the AG opinion that gov'ts can't be held accountable for signs on their property that is posted by the private entity running their business or event on that property, and for the problem with the severe time delay for the fines for signs law.
Hold private entities accountable for posting unenforceable signs on government owned property.
Hold officials personally accountable for unenforceable/illegal 30.06/30.07/verbal notices on public property. We have already seen on numerous occasions that government officials have no problem spending tax dollars to keep their signs up.
Any license holder who is carrying and denied entry onto public property for an event will be owed money in damages from the gov't/institution who is refusing him entry.
Remove everything about amusement parks, hospitals/nursing homes, and churches/synagogues from 46.035.