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by locke_n_load
Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:07 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Minimum Caliber for Handgun Proficiency Exam
Replies: 32
Views: 3721

Re: Minimum Caliber for Handgun Proficiency Exam

jmorris wrote:
locke_n_load wrote:
jmorris wrote:
Medley86 wrote:Not that I would expect it to happen often, but since there is no caliber restriction, could one use an AR pistol with a brace, and then since the atf has decided it's ok, shoulder it?
As long as the brace has not been modified and the shoulder use is incidential, sporadic, or situational.
True about the modification. But about the shouldering, that is your interpretation. Texas DPS does not dictate how you must hold a pistol to qualify, and ATF has since "updated" 'their opinion that shouldering a brace does not re-classify the firearm. So in my opinion as an instructor, shouldering would be ok. Not preferred, but ok.
It's late for me so I'm not going on go cut and paste but in my reading of both memos the concern was the incidental shouldering of the pistol and that was what the ATI clarified.
I gotcha. What I took away was the intent when building the pistol originally. If the intent was to put on a brace and use that as a stock, then they made an illegal SBR. But if they built it to use as a pistol, and then shouldered it later, as long as that was not their intention when building it, then it is ok to shoulder at a later time.
by locke_n_load
Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:23 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Minimum Caliber for Handgun Proficiency Exam
Replies: 32
Views: 3721

Re: Minimum Caliber for Handgun Proficiency Exam

jmorris wrote:
Medley86 wrote:Not that I would expect it to happen often, but since there is no caliber restriction, could one use an AR pistol with a brace, and then since the atf has decided it's ok, shoulder it?
As long as the brace has not been modified and the shoulder use is incidential, sporadic, or situational.
True about the modification. But about the shouldering, that is your interpretation. Texas DPS does not dictate how you must hold a pistol to qualify, and ATF has since "updated" 'their opinion that shouldering a brace does not re-classify the firearm. So in my opinion as an instructor, shouldering would be ok. Not preferred, but ok.
by locke_n_load
Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:31 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Minimum Caliber for Handgun Proficiency Exam
Replies: 32
Views: 3721

Re: Minimum Caliber for Handgun Proficiency Exam

Medley86 wrote:Not that I would expect it to happen often, but since there is no caliber restriction, could one use an AR pistol with a brace, and then since the atf has decided it's ok, shoulder it?
I would allow it. But remember, you are not allowed to use optics, red dots, lasers, etc. Only open sights.

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