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by Tracker
Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:23 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: So what's the new signage going to be?
Replies: 104
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Re: So what's the new signage going to be?

The management could print up some business cards for the busboy to handout to the OCer. It's one thing to walk into a restaurant OCing and be asked to leave. It's another to sit the person down, have them order their meal, then be in the middle of eating it, and then have the busboy ask you to leave. There should've been a 30.07 sign on the door in the first place.
by Tracker
Sat May 30, 2015 12:36 pm
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: So what's the new signage going to be?
Replies: 104
Views: 41481

Re: So what's the new signage going to be?

der Teufel wrote:
Tracker wrote: . . . rough estimate but.... 1 in 20 Texans of primary shopping age are licensed to carry. And the fastest growing demographic of those licensed gun owners are women.
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/18/v ... nt-page-1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/ ... 103316.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's to be seen how many businesses will turn them away. But I've said this before. IMO it'll be women openly carrying that will normalize the practice among the general population more so than men.

Intriguing, although not every CHL owner is in what you've categorized as the 'primary shopper' age group. There are quite a few over 65, I'm pretty sure. Also, not every CHL owner carries regularly. My wife has agreed to get her license, but I doubt that she'll carry. I'll work on that, but it may never happen. I suspect she's not alone. She will almost certainly never openly carry.

Still, next year should be interesting. I'm mainly hoping that the OCT/OCTC types don't hose things up for everyone else.
Yeah I didn't think about that in my division. However, I am including 18-20 so I don't think the 1 in 20 for that 21-65 is too far off.

My wife got her CHL because our son wanted her to get it with him after he turned 21. My wife had only recently learned that she likes shooting. She was scared to death of guns. My son is in college but decided not to take his gun with him. Probably because :cheers2:. Actually, I don't think he wants his roommates to have access to it and he doesn't want to leave it in his car. His sister carries regularly. But neither my wife and son have every carried, as she mostly likes target shooting.
by Tracker
Sat May 30, 2015 11:12 am
Forum: 2015 Legislative Session
Topic: So what's the new signage going to be?
Replies: 104
Views: 41481

Re: So what's the new signage going to be?

The Annoyed Man wrote:Back when CHL first passed, there was no 30.06 codicil, and so even if some business owner were anti-gun, he would not have been read up on being able to keep people out with a 30.06 sign. But, 30.06 signs have been in existence for a LONG time now, and the one thing that has kept more of them from being posted is simply that if our guns are out of sight, they are out of the business-owner's mind.

However, things are more politically polarized than ever these days, and the debates over open carry did not occur in a vaccum....... including details such as 30.07 signage since it is part of the law that was passed, unlike with original CHL law and 30.06. I wonder what impact that is going to have on the posting of signage. Will people who are motivated to post 30.07 signs also go the extra trouble to post 30.06 if they haven't already? Will they do nothing until the first time someone carries openly into their business? Will they carry on as before and do nothing?

Inquiring minds want to know. I'm guessing that there will be an initial jump in the rate at which sign postings get reported on texas3006.com (has Russell already claimed texas3007.com?), after which things will calm down. The reason I think this is that the sign postings will likely be in response to new open carriers who are doing it for the novelty of it, and that when the novelty wears off and they decide to prefer (not "eliminate", I mean prefer) CC over OC, they will OC less frequently, resulting in less frequent postings.

However, the "damage" will have been done as, once the signs have been posted, they are not likely to be taken down ever again. So the question that interests me is to what extent business owners will react this way.
Let me throw by ya'll and see what you think.

The number of Texas CHL holders as of Dec 31, 2014 is 825,957
https://www.txdps.state.tx.us/rsd/chl/r ... tr2014.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Texas demographics as of July 1, 2014: http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045214/48,00" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Total population 26,956,958
26.6% are under 18yr
11.2% are 65yr and older


26,956,958 x .266 = 7,170,550
26,956,958 x .112 = 3,019,180

26,956,958 - 7,170,550 - 3,019,180 = 16,767,200 Texas' population of primary shoppers.

16,767,200 / 825,957 = `20.


rough estimate but.... 1 in 20 Texans of primary shopping age are licensed to carry. And the fastest growing demographic of those licensed gun owners are women.
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/02/18/v ... nt-page-1/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.chron.com/news/nation-world/ ... 103316.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's to be seen how many businesses will turn them away. But I've said this before. IMO it'll be women openly carrying that will normalize the practice among the general population more so than men.

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