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by Cedar Park Dad
Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:19 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: ISIS Mall Attack - How can we prepare?
Replies: 158
Views: 11266

Re: ISIS Mall Attack - How can we prepare?

RustES wrote:
I'm pretty sure you just described the script from Die Hard :tiphat:
Yippee kay yay :biggrinjester:
by Cedar Park Dad
Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:39 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: ISIS Mall Attack - How can we prepare?
Replies: 158
Views: 11266

Re: ISIS Mall Attack - How can we prepare?

TomsTXCHL wrote:Perhaps we can agree that we need to take "fear" out of these discussions.

If we walk-around fearful of a terrorist attack, the terrorists have already won.

I'm fearful of what that next double cheeseburger will do to my belt. The cheese has already won! :biggrinjester:
by Cedar Park Dad
Wed Oct 01, 2014 10:56 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: ISIS Mall Attack - How can we prepare?
Replies: 158
Views: 11266

Re: ISIS Mall Attack - How can we prepare?

ripnbst wrote:
TomsTXCHL wrote:
ripnbst wrote:I fear preparing for something like this is not as "fanatical" as some anti's would like to make you think.
Still, unless you actually work in a mall, the chances of being in the wrong place at the wrong time are incredibly small.

I have not added this to the list of things I worry about.
Not if you think about narrowing the odds to those of reality. When would a terror strike on a mall likely happen? If they have even half a brain it would be on the weekend, when it is busiest. If you have highschool aged children, or or a wife who goes to the mall regularly, or you just happen to go on a weekend, you have now reduced the denominator from 365 days down to 104 days. What are you going to tell your kids? "Sorry, from now on you can only go to the mall monday through thursday? I admit, malls are busy friday nights too but I'm not splitting the odds down to hours.

And as was mentioned before, the odds that anyone anywhere in the US needs to draw their CCW is less than that of a car accident. Yet here we are on a forum with discussion focused around CCW. At least I'm not advocating the backpack carry of a folding rifle. Not that there is anything wrong with that if you feel compelled to do it, to each their own.
The flipside argument to that is - how many malls have been attacked to date by terrorists?
Now divide that number by number of malls in the world.
by Cedar Park Dad
Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:18 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: ISIS Mall Attack - How can we prepare?
Replies: 158
Views: 11266

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AndyC wrote:We lived in siege-conditions in South Africa for decades, and life just has to go on.

Weigh the risk, carry everywhere you can (and carry alternate weapons when you can't). Know your exits, note cover and concealment, protect your family first, protect yourself and others if you can, die like a Viking if you have to.

I'm liking this phrase.
I didn't live in SA but I did live in the bad parts of the LA basin for five years. Life goes on and you're much more likely to be mugged than for a terrorist attack in the US. Its incredibly statistically insignificant.
by Cedar Park Dad
Wed Sep 24, 2014 9:10 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: ISIS Mall Attack - How can we prepare?
Replies: 158
Views: 11266

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MechAg94 wrote:That is the rub when considering this scenario. In terms of defending yourself and your family, what to do is a no-brainer. Going further and counter attacking is something to consider as well though it might depend on what you carry. In my list above, I was sort of visualizing everyone in a particular store evacuating out the back.

I thought I heard the Nigeria attack came in from all directions so the odds of one or more CHL holders being confronted at the mall entrances is pretty high. For me, I am not sure I am comfortable counterattacking with my pistol (as in the other side of the mall). However, the opportunity to seize a rifle would provide a much better opportunity.
I don't now about the Nigeria Mall, but most closed in (vs. open air) malls at least here have lots and lots of exits. In contrast to crazy shooter scenario, I'd proffer the best solution is absolutely not to find somewhere safe and sit tight, but instead get out of there through the nearest anchor store in the mall. Odds are they aren't covered. If they are take them out. The people stuck in the Nigeria mall were the ones executed wholesale.
by Cedar Park Dad
Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:56 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: ISIS Mall Attack - How can we prepare?
Replies: 158
Views: 11266

Re: ISIS Mall Attack - How can we prepare?

ScottDLS wrote:With the world political situation as it is and our porous southern border, I'm becoming more concerned about a potential attack by ISIS in a high profile Texas location. What about a machine gun attack in a crowded mall? Grapevine Mills comes to mind as it is theoretically a GFZ. Or an AMC theater?

What if a crew of determined jihadis decide to take a Mills Mall hostage w/ full-auto "Fast and Furious" AK's that they picked up in Mexico, on the way to Texas? I'm afraid that my carry piece (Walther PPK/s) isn't going to cut it. I'm thinking it may not even be enough to fight my way back to my car where I sometimes have my AR-15.

Does anyone (other than OCTC) carry a rifle or other long gun regularly (maybe concealed)? I can almost get my Ruger AC-556F Full-Auto folder into a backpack. It would be a SBR if it wasn't also select fire. For now I leave it in my bug out bag. I'm afraid they search backpacks at AMC (mostly for outside food, but I doubt an AR would go over well).

:evil2:
In the real world if you're having a multipoint attack on a mall Nigeria style, your best bet is to haul keister. So I guess I'd recommened preparing by practicing wind sprints.

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